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Title: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: fracas on June 13, 2010, 09:33:05 PM
I am looking for a model fortress where
the walls pieces are in 12cm (or 4cm) long and deep enough (2cm) to hold 1-3 stands of warmaster infantry on the wall
with towers 4cm by 4cm wide (to hold 2 stands of warmaster models)


any idea?
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: marell le fou on June 13, 2010, 10:40:59 PM
check Kalistra model of fortress. Made for 10-15 cm but suits warmaster very well.
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: jchaos79 on June 14, 2010, 08:08:18 PM
Not really idea about the Zvedza fortress mesearument, but I think could fit very well
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: spiritusXmachina on June 14, 2010, 09:41:22 PM
The Zvedza fortress is more for 20+mm models. Had some parts of them.
I can recommend the Kallistra pieces. They fit perfectly.

Or you wait some days for the next Warmuster issue - It's about Sieges and there will be an article about building a Fortress effectivly fast and cheap.
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: fracas on June 15, 2010, 02:25:02 AM
Or you wait some days for the next Warmuster issue - It's about Sieges and there will be an article about building a Fortress effectivly fast and cheap.

awesome
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: Raider4 on June 15, 2010, 09:36:07 PM
Download the models from WotC (the D&D people) available here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fpm/archive), scale to match 10mm, print & build what you need.

Cheers, Martyn
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Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: fracas on June 15, 2010, 11:05:12 PM
that is great.

any idea where i can also just get a print out of a stone wall? cause i can easily build a fortress out of paper/foam but the stone appearance would really enhance its look
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: Bel on June 17, 2010, 11:10:03 AM
Not really idea about the Zvedza fortress mesearument, but I think could fit very well

Miniart castle/fortress is better (but more hard to assemble)
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: azrael71 on June 17, 2010, 02:58:27 PM
Not really idea about the Zvedza fortress mesearument, but I think could fit very well

Miniart castle/fortress is better (but more hard to assemble)
That is what I own (both models) took me an entire night to construct it.
I.E. 7pm to 7am  :-[

But it is a very nice castle/fortification.
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: marell le fou on June 17, 2010, 10:30:20 PM
Those links ?

http://miniart-models.com/index.htm?/72005.htm
http://miniart-models.com/index.htm?/72004.htm

Are they really at a coherent scale for 10 mm ?
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: azrael71 on June 18, 2010, 12:38:07 PM
yes and yes
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: pw on August 13, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
Hi Azrael, from the pictures on the internet that castle looks the business (better perhaps than the Kallistra one). Is there any chance of getting some pictures of yours alongside some WM toys to see how it works?

Please!  ;D

EDIT: Is this the castle that features in Warmuster #2? If so, is it possible to build it to be 'modular' to allow for various layouts?
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: spiritusXmachina on August 13, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
This is not the castle pictured in Warmuster #2. I did the (Sandstone) Warmuster castle myself.
I made some moulds and poured the walls with plaster. But I admit the mini-art castle looks similar.

Greetings,
Gerald
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: azrael71 on August 13, 2010, 06:14:24 PM
Nope, my fort is in the magazine, but it is not one of the main ones.
It is modular so you can set it ip in different formats.
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: pw on August 13, 2010, 08:21:39 PM
Thanks. Glad to hear it's modular, very handy. Azrael, which page(s) shows your castle?
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: azrael71 on August 13, 2010, 09:06:25 PM
Bottom 2 pics on page 38
Although looking at the cover page that looks like the same make castle as I use.
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: pw on August 13, 2010, 10:05:23 PM
Thanks, that's great. I'll be getting one (or two?) of those soon.
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: DaveC on August 14, 2010, 11:54:35 AM
Ebay is your best bet I picked up an unboxed one yesterday for £17.99 most places seem to charge £27.99. I bought it to see what it's like in flesh as it where as I'm very tempt to do the Gates of Volganof from the 8th edition rulebook in 10/15mm scale and the flat panel nature of these maybe perfect for the job. It's about time I did some proper scenery.

EDIT: just checked ebay you lot have been busy most of them are now gone!

UK stockist http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/product.php/9431/0/medieval_castle (http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/product.php/9431/0/medieval_castle) (£27.95 plus £6.75 P&P free postage to UK over £45 ex VAT)
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: azrael71 on August 14, 2010, 02:53:27 PM
They're the ones.
I bought a castle and a fortress for maximum options.

If you hunt about, you may get them a bit cheaper :)
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: calmacil on August 14, 2010, 06:35:27 PM

UK stockist http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/product.php/9431/0/medieval_castle (http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/product.php/9431/0/medieval_castle) (£27.95 plus £6.75 P&P free postage to UK over £45 ex VAT)
Wow that castle is brilliant, i love it.  ;D

On this site i've also seen a trebuchet http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/product.php/2265/859/trebuchet this is also 1/72 scale. My friend needs a few for his bretonnian army.
But i've looked up that scale and it says that's for 25mm models. Is that correct?

Should i be looking for 1/161 scale?

Here's what i think are the correct scales....

54mm = 1:32 scale
45mm = 1:35 scale
28mm = 1:64 scale
25mm = 1:72 scale
20mm = 1:76 scale
15mm = 1:100 scale
12mm = 1:144 scale
10mm = 1:161 scale
6mm = 1:300 scale

"O" (1:48), "HO" (1:87), and "N" (1:160) scale are popular among model railroad hobbyists.
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: DaveC on August 14, 2010, 09:10:05 PM
Scale can be a bit strange with gaming figures Warmaster is a bit bigger than N scale which itself isn't exactly a set scale ranging fom 1/140 to 1/160 different countries can have different definitions of scale.  I've used N scale stuff without to much issue it's just a little small. 1/72 scale is 1 inch = 6 feet so 25mm scale is about right the thing about the castle is it doesn't really matter once it looks right there is nothing to particularly throw it off scale the blocks might look a bit big but then that happens in real life as well. It would probably help to shorten the height of the doors and ramparts and as the pieces are thin plastic thats not a problem.

A 1/72 Trebuchet would be to big for warmaster

Old Glory do 10mm scale siege weapons:

http://www.oldgloryuk.com/disp_item.php?c=343&oc=4162 (http://www.oldgloryuk.com/disp_item.php?c=343&oc=4162)
http://www.oldgloryuk.com/disp_items.php?c=343 (http://www.oldgloryuk.com/disp_items.php?c=343)

I don't own one I scratch built mine from plasti strips (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/davejc/Warmaster/Brettonians/?action=view&current=Treb.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/davejc/Warmaster/Brettonians/?action=view&current=Treb.jpg)) but I've heard the Old Glory one is quite a bit larger than the brettonian Trubuchet but still "in scale"

Donnington miniatures also do one but it's 15mm scale you can see it with a 15mm figure next to it here: (it towers over him)

99mm tall http://shop.ancient-modern.co.uk/art46-giant-trebuchet-height-99mm-mal-voisin-1957-p.asp (http://shop.ancient-modern.co.uk/art46-giant-trebuchet-height-99mm-mal-voisin-1957-p.asp)
65mm tall http://shop.ancient-modern.co.uk/art45-large-trebuchet-height-65mm-1956-p.asp (http://shop.ancient-modern.co.uk/art45-large-trebuchet-height-65mm-1956-p.asp)

Irregular minitures do a 6mm Trebuchet that would work with 10mm. They also do a 15mm but not a 10mm for some reason

http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/ (http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/) click on 6mm or 15m at the bottom of the screen.
6mm picture http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_r1do5nQyEgE/S4pWqrEoBfI/AAAAAAAAA2o/0RX38lR7Org/s1600-h/Irregular+Miniatures+Trebuchet.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_r1do5nQyEgE/S4pWqrEoBfI/AAAAAAAAA2o/0RX38lR7Org/s1600-h/Irregular+Miniatures+Trebuchet.jpg)

There's a good article on making a trebuchet here http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?Itemid=31&id=29&option=com_content&task=view (http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?Itemid=31&id=29&option=com_content&task=view) the principles are the same just smaller.

Right I've finished modifying this reply sorry if your trying to read it and I keep updating it things just kept coming to mind
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: pw on August 14, 2010, 09:59:53 PM
I'm not sure whether to thank DaveC or curse him! I was going to buy that castle tomorrow (having just returned from Warhammer World without buying a single toy!). Probably for the best, if any more parcels come through my door I'll get into trouble!  ;D
Title: Re: Warmaster Fortress
Post by: marell le fou on August 15, 2010, 01:11:44 AM
Magister Millitum has a new range of castles and walls in 15mm. They might be usefull.