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Title: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Geep on August 14, 2010, 05:01:47 AM
In a recent eBay purchase I gained a large number of uncommon Warmaster minis, including one I've never seen before- it looks just like a High Elf Dragon, but it has no rider (and doesn't look like the rider has been cut off). Does anyone know if this is a rare model, or just a good conversion?

While I'm making a thread, I may as well cover a few other things:
Some spear heads from High Elf spearmen were broken off (and not included as pieces)- does anyone have advice on how best to replace these?

Another eBay auction saw me gain six strips of Dwarf Hammerers- enough for a unit, except that they are all rank and file models- they have no command stand. Does anyone happen to have a spare Hammerer command stand (or strip) for sale/ trade?

Lastly, how rare are the limited release Orc and Goblin models? I've managed to gain forest goblin infantry, spider riders and a fanatic cannon, but have never even seen some of the savage orc models I've heard about.

Thanks for the help,
Geep
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Lex on August 14, 2010, 07:50:02 AM
can you post pictures ?

Check forum and gw-warmster yahoo group for threads on the HE spears

I think my hammerers never had a commandstrip, and I have orriginal ones

I have the various goblins alternatives, and I have seen the Orcsm but I woud deem those to be prety rare
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: azrael71 on August 14, 2010, 10:02:17 AM
My hammerers have got a standard.
A long pole with an eagle on the top and Grungi's face half way down.

The savage orc boar boys and boys are quite rare, you very rarely see them come up on eBay.

The question about spears has been answered, but perhaps it may be useful to have a FAQ thread here for regulars and new visitors alike.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: azrael71 on August 14, 2010, 02:51:40 PM
There is a picture of the dwarves banner on the back of warmag 16.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: wellspring on August 14, 2010, 10:56:51 PM
In a recent eBay purchase I gained a large number of uncommon Warmaster minis, including one I've never seen before- it looks just like a High Elf Dragon, but it has no rider (and doesn't look like the rider has been cut off). Does anyone know if this is a rare model, or just a good conversion?

While I'm making a thread, I may as well cover a few other things:
Some spear heads from High Elf spearmen were broken off (and not included as pieces)- does anyone have advice on how best to replace these?

Another eBay auction saw me gain six strips of Dwarf Hammerers- enough for a unit, except that they are all rank and file models- they have no command stand. Does anyone happen to have a spare Hammerer command stand (or strip) for sale/ trade?

Lastly, how rare are the limited release Orc and Goblin models? I've managed to gain forest goblin infantry, spider riders and a fanatic cannon, but have never even seen some of the savage orc models I've heard about.

Thanks for the help,
Geep

I saw the dragon on eBay when it was up for bid-- very interesting mini. I get the feeling that GW had many unreleased minis in addition to the short-release minis like dragon princes etc. My question is: where did THESE guys find them? Tournament circuit near GWHQ?

BTW, I noticed yesterday that the straight-up Goblins aren't in print anymore, just night goblins. Hadn't realized that before.

Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Geep on August 15, 2010, 03:59:41 AM
Straight up goblins? I thought there were only night goblins and forest goblins in Warmaster scale? More stuff for me to look for...

I don't know if this forum restricts where images can be posted, so let's see how this goes:

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/Geep_2006/Dragon2.png)
Unmounted Dragon and regular High Elf Dragonrider. Both painted by Erwinkj2010 (eBay name).

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/Geep_2006/Dragon1.png)
Umounted Dragon body and High Elf Dragonrider body- the rest of the model is the same for both (and yes, I have 2 of these things).

Out of curiosity I'll post pics of the weirderdwarf stuff I have too:
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/Geep_2006/Dwarf1.png)
Hammerers and Lord on Throne. When I bought these they were advertised as Thorgrimm and Bodyguard.
The Lord on Throne looks mostly just lie the one on the GW website, except for the additional models- A dwarf jester, bear in chains and dwarf with drink.

I've taken a closer look at the Hammerers, and think I may have spotted the command strip, though it's not as Azrael71 describes:
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/Geep_2006/Dwarf2.png)
It seems to be a simple poll with small icon and tiny ribbon of material hanging down the back- it's hardly noticeable, and there's nothing that looks like a musician or champion.

So... can anyone tell me what these are, if any of them have official names?

Thanks
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Lex on August 15, 2010, 09:02:42 AM
KK  the dragon is a cast of the basic model, there is also an unmounted Hipogriff. Kinda make sense to have a basic unmounted model and then make the mounted variant, more so if you need several different rider variants

The top dwarfs are hammerers, from my POV I think you got a snapped bannerpole..... and the toppart is missing, hence the relatively simpel icon on pole (which is the bottompart)

Dwarf with attendandts is part of the characterpack, the 3 figures on the right of that are different from mine, so I guess the character pack had some variation in those (we know the HE had)
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: jchaos79 on August 15, 2010, 11:17:27 AM
By the way, beatifull paint on dragons!. Good job :)
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Lex on August 15, 2010, 12:21:40 PM
NOTE!!

The goblins shown and the goblins deleivered MAY not be the same
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Stomm on August 15, 2010, 07:05:33 PM

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/Geep_2006/Dragon2.png)
Unmounted Dragon and regular High Elf Dragonrider. Both painted by Erwinkj2010 (eBay name).

I know those dragons, and doing a quick user-id. search on Ebay I also know the Chaos army and his Eldar Harlequins. Whoever got those last ones got a bargain, Erwin is a damn good painter and can actually do justice to a Harlequin Troupe.

Looks to me like he's just offloaded his wargaming collection, which is a real shame. I guess he hasn't got the time to play or maybe no-one to play against out there in Oz... Hopefully the armies will see a new lease of life.


Incidentally if it's him that you got this stuff from. 'back in the day', we used to go to all the CtA events and the like, and IIRC Erwin wrote a few Warmag articles. I know that I got hold of various unreleased Dwarf bits and bobs through the articles I wrote, so he likely did the same with whatever he wrote (I'm pretty sure he had some stuff published in Warmag at some point). It's just a shame to see that he's so definitively leaving Warmaster behind him, the idea of selling an army is anathema to me I have to say, but that might have something to do with my glacial painting rate...

Anyway, the Guy's name is Erwin Jackson, and if it is his HE army you've bought, well you're very lucky indeed...
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Geep on August 15, 2010, 09:25:24 PM
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Anyway, the Guy's name is Erwin Jackson, and if it is his HE army you've bought, well you're very lucky indeed...
Yes- I bought his whole HE army. Normally I'd never buy a painted army (I do like painting myself), but his was well painted and included a lot of rare units.
It's good to know some of the history of the army and how this stuff made it in- thanks.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Stomm on August 15, 2010, 09:36:36 PM
He was a fellow member of the Tanelorn Wargames club in North East London, he moved back to Oz shortly before I naffed off up to Nottingham for a couple of years IIRC, or at roughly the same time anyway. Amongst the likes of Chris Burnet, he was one of my regular opponents when Warmaster was still fresh and new, and you could count the number of people locally that played it (that I knew of) on more than one hand...

There are probably still some photos of his stuff lurking about on the Tanelorn website gallery if you want to hunt it down. When I got back from Nottingham the 30-40 minute drive on a sunday night home, combined with the arrival of kids and my wife's job moving to Canary Wharf means that I could no longer make it as often as I would have liked (IoW maybe twice a year. I make it to Lenton more often...), which was one of the driving forces for getting a club going more locally. I do however only have one local Warmaster player of any regularity.

Needless to say I have fought against both this and his Chaos armies a few times in the distant past. I think against the Chaos army only once, and that was a game that I'm pretty sure that I lost, as my unsubtle 'hit them with a load of knights' technique doesn't work on a block of chaos warriors sandwiched in between terrain impassable to cavalry with maraduer support and S&F from a dragon in one of the units... I can't remember what any win/loss ratio might have been against his HE army though. And as an added bonus it may well have been used to play against Rick's O&G's, and if it did most likely won. RIck can write a good game, but does tend to loose a little too often... ;) Anyway, Erwin could likely confirm or deny that I guess...
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: marell le fou on August 15, 2010, 10:20:29 PM
Here is a pict of hammerers to compare.

(http://data6.blog.de/media/645/4835645_dd685fdf55_l.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: azrael71 on August 16, 2010, 04:44:55 PM
Doh.
Should have checked the forum, just took a pic of mine as well :(
Ah well :)
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Geep on August 16, 2010, 09:39:43 PM
Thanks for the pic. Guess I'll have to do some converting to replace the lost banner parts.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: marell le fou on August 16, 2010, 09:52:39 PM
The best would probably be to cut in just on top of the dwarf's hand, and to drill to be able to fix a new pole.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: fracas on August 16, 2010, 11:01:08 PM
or add a banner top that would over lap with the circular part that is already there
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Geep on October 04, 2010, 06:12:19 AM
I've recently recieved a new eBay lot that includes some unusual pieces. I can identify most of them, but it includes two sprues each with two jaws (probably lower jaw), and I can't tell what model it may be from.
The jaws are fairly large (length 7-8mm, width 6mm), with pointy, uneven teeth. When the sprue is placed with the teeth facing upwards, the right jaw also has a tongue. I can provide pictures later if needed.
The only models I can think may use this jaw are a stegadon or carnosaur (usually labelled a T-rex in warmaster).
Can anyone confirm my guess or otherwise let me know what model these are from?

(PS. I've added this question to my old topic as I don't think it needs a topic to itself, incase people are wondering why i'm posting here)
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: marell le fou on October 04, 2010, 11:05:20 PM
yes please, photos :)
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Geep on November 24, 2010, 11:13:22 PM
Playing threadomancy with my old topic again...

In my latest post I mentioned how I had 2 weird sets of jaws, and I don't know what they're from. I've finally got around to taking a photo:
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/Geep_2006/WMJawsUnknown.png)
(apologies it's so washed out)
Anyone know what they're from?
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: CT Yankee on November 25, 2010, 02:43:03 AM

No idea what they are, but I love the word "threadomancy"....
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: spiritusXmachina on November 25, 2010, 08:08:05 AM
Maybe try to take photos again without flash?
It's a bit like a puzzle. I would guess it has something to do with Lizzies but I don't hold my hand into fire for that.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: wellspring on November 25, 2010, 04:35:42 PM
I have both stegadons and can confirm that those jaws are NOT from either. The regular stegadon's head is cast directly on the body. The crested stegadon does have a separate piece, but for the upper jaw and head, not the lower. The pieces shown don't look anything like the pieces I have.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: marell le fou on November 25, 2010, 08:54:13 PM
The same pict after a sober treatment.

(http://data6.blog.de/media/338/5157338_ce138bc15c_l.png)

Make me think of the long oop epic exodites eldars but i'm not sure. Will have to see in my old stuff if it matches.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: marell le fou on November 26, 2010, 02:36:03 AM
Here are the exodite models... But they are really rare. Maybe 15 years oop and a very limited sell. Unreleased maybe, but i think limited released.

(http://pagesperso-orange.fr/taran/images/runeseldars/05exodites/exodites.JPG)

Anyway, it doesn't seem to match your unknown figs...
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: Geep on November 26, 2010, 03:25:32 AM
Thanks for the edited picture Marell le fou, and for the picture of the eldar exodites- they look neat. Any idea what kind of price they fetch?

These jaws may not be from the Warmaster range- I assumed they were as all of the other bits and pieces I recieved with them were regular WM models.
Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Unmounted HE Dragon (and other questions)
Post by: marell le fou on November 27, 2010, 04:45:50 AM
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Any idea what kind of price they fetch?

Don't really know... They are rarely seen and if you have some, i'm interested :)