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Battlefleet Gothic => [BFG] Discussion => Topic started by: dicnar on October 09, 2010, 03:58:04 PM
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Although I don't play Dark Eldar in 40k i was realy interested in models just to stand in for the awful IMO gothic DE ships.
Here are some quick shops of a whole range of possibilities that awaits when those will hit the shelves. What do you guys think?
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7332/darkeldarships.jpg)
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Good photoshops. we approve.
Two notes:
1) I do like the BFG DE vessels
2) I kinda dislike 90% of the new Dark Eldar range
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I must completely disagree ;). I think they're out there with the kroot "paperweight" sphere.
And I do like the 90% of the new DE range, it's the 10% of weird stuff that worries me :)
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lol,
The Kroot sphere is mighty cool. It is the prize that puts me off.
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looks great
but what are the dimensions?
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lol,
The Kroot sphere is mighty cool. It is the prize that puts me off.
Of course it's cool...as a paperweight that is ;D. No really please it looks like something that was cool in a concept and maby if FW went and do it the model would look great but in it's actual form it's a joke. Especially when you try to keep it on it's tiny little plastic rod ;D.
looks great
but what are the dimensions?
Well...i don't know :) i just played with a thought of using those new DE for BFG. those should be cruiser sized vessels so i'm still i na need of an escort.
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maybe the flying disks could be escorts
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You mean the Hellions disc? i think they might be a little to big but we wouldn't know until we see those models. Actually the one in the upper left corner is photoshopped from new hellions board pic. the rest is made from jetnikes.
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Those look very spiffy. I was thinking of starting a dark eldar fleet, but was a little disappointed with the lack of variety in the current model range. Maybe with the new DE bits and some old ship bits I can finally build a worthy fleet \o/
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Although I don't play Dark Eldar in 40k i was realy interested in models just to stand in for the awful IMO gothic DE ships.
Here are some quick shops of a whole range of possibilities that awaits when those will hit the shelves. What do you guys think?
Very, very nice! The official DE fleet was right up there with the first attempt at tyranids (the newer tyranid fleet is much, much better).
Your photoshop work looks fantastic. Close enough to other Eldar that they look like they come from the same race, but different enough that you know they're a very different kind of fleet.
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Considering how few cruisers are actually in a fleet, I was actually planning to buy a pack of 3 jetbikes and converting them to replace my cruisers.
The escorts are the real problem when it comes to making... they are both numerous and expensive.
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Arent jetbikes alot bigger than cruisers?
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One of the player ay our monthly BFG meeting had just purchaced a box of the DE bike, and ofcourse we compared the sprues to the DE ships we had there and the scale is just about perfect for a cruiser size ship
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Oh don't tempt me now patch........ I like my Dark Eldar fleet but those new jet bikes look soooooooooooooooo nice.......
-Zhukov
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Considering how few cruisers are actually in a fleet, I was actually planning to buy a pack of 3 jetbikes and converting them to replace my cruisers.
The escorts are the real problem when it comes to making... they are both numerous and expensive.
Can we maybe use the spikey bits on the infantry sprues?
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WIP for the DE Heavy Cruiser
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DEHyCruiser3.jpg)
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Nice.
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Very very nice in fact. Can't say I'm liking the colour scheme though. Makes it look drab, but looking past that I can see that the model is mucho excellente.
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That's just the base coat, I haven't finished painting it, but my DE's are a Dark Angels Green color scheme
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More work done
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DECA13.jpg)
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DECA3GP-1.jpg)
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DECA12.jpg)
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Nice Pat. I'm excited to make it explode next friday. ;)
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Got to catch it first ;)
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Got any photos from different angles? Front, back and top would be nice.
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I'll see what I can come up with
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Here are some new picture, I changed to contrast to show detail a little better
Comparison
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DECAAA9.jpg)
Back
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DECAAA6.jpg)
Front
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DECAAA4.jpg)
Side
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DECAAA2.jpg)
Top
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DECAAA1.jpg)
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Very cool. Much better than the standard cruisers.
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Indeed, better looking. Wonder how cost effective though.
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For the U.S. at least:
Dark Eldar Cruiser BFG line: $17.25 per ship.
Dark Eldar Escort BFG line: $15.00 for 3.
Dark Eldar Reavers 40k line: $34.75 for 3.
Dark Eldar Hellions 40k line: $24.75 for 5.
So it's cheaper taking the 40k option stateside. And with no cost to shipping (over $15) it's not a bad thought. Anybody else think the Hellions (with a bit of model adjusting) could make good escorts?
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Just saw Pat's ship in RL, totally cool, he's changed the paint scheme up a bit since the photos.
Didn't get a chance to kill it though, he played chaos with a Blackstone this month.
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I'd love to see the escort designs-- this is a great idea.
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That's what I was talking about! Great conversions! I already like it a whole way better than the GW DE range.
I haven't got my hand on those DE plastic kits yet but as soon as do I try to make some gothic ships.
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I have to ask pat, would you mind posting a how-to of your conversions?
I am very interested to make some cheap and better looking DE cruisers.
Any ideas for other ships? Ill eat it up!
Edit:
Also, do you think there is any potential in the old bikes and bits from the OOP range?
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I have embarked on a new quest for conversion greatness.
The sails on the reavers and ravagers are perfect for solar sails on Craftworld Eldar ships, specifically, they are large enough for a Craftworld if dome correctly. I need to figure out the base material for construction, but I think it will work out magnificently
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Using what rules?
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Rules? I want to make it, just to make it. If someone were dumb enough to face it I would say "bang, your dead". No one survives fights against craftworlds. Entire segmentum battlefleets vanish when trying to attack.
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No one survives fights against craftworlds.
The Tyranids almost did it. Just sayin...
-Zhukov
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There are some firestorm armada ships that, when combined with some solar sails, look perfect for eldar ships. Add some spikes and voila, DE ships too! Just have a look on their website and you'll see what I mean.
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Ya, splinter fleet at that. Craftworlds are formidable, but not more than a heavily defended world. Their power is secrecy.
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If you remember, an entire segmentum battlefleet attacked a craftworld.. and vanished.
Craftworlds vary in size and strength, the bigger they are, the more stupidly powerful they are. There was even a warp rift with the rules for a craft world, which had 20 hits, turrets, holofields, and a nova cannon :P
Again, I somehow doubt that the second most advanced race in the game would use 'just' secrecy to defend their homes, I expect that they are blistering with enough weapons to cheerfully demolish invading fleets, not to mention their defense fleets and corsair allies.
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Oh I dont doubt they arent bristling with weapons. But its not a true warship. Much of it is given over to recreational stuff, as described in fluff.
Artsy Eldar stuff and eco-domes and the like. Absolutely it would have weapons, sure. But I think the real power is the fleet of Eldar ships protecting it. A splinter fleet isn't a hive fleet, although its still quite a threat, and did manage to cripple one of the largest craftworlds in existence.
I don't know what fluff you are getting it from, but if 'Segmentum fleet' was really mentioned, I can't really believe that. Maybe subsector?
All of Battlefleet Gothic was just a portion of a Segmentum fleet.
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Pat, more! I demand it! :D
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over the holidays ive put together my own DE fleet, using 1 box of reavers, 2 of hellions and a handful of older jetbike spikes. will post pics when i can, but im happy with the result. the escorts are simply the hellion boards with the rider backs stuck on the front like a double cockpit (anyone remember the toad fighters in bucky o hare?)
2 of my cruisers have been done like the OP's, and as i had a few spares the last i did the right side up with the top half of a hellion slotted into the 'seat'. needless to say they are all exceptionally spiky, and ive gone for a very 'tron' colour scheme - black with orange neon stripes along the edges.
the general principle of the cruisers is to build the jetbike as normal, but stick the front hull on upside down, so that the undercarriage vent forms a bridge/launch bay of some kind, and the seat is tucked underneath (i covered it up with classice reaver spikes, which have a convenient hole for the flight stand)
as i say i hope to get pics soon, until then you will have to imaginate it.
PS. the firestorm armada pirate fleet is perfectly suited for DE if you like the squarier look of the ships, for a similar price to the plastics kitbash.
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pics!
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yes, more please :)
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Sorry been busy over the Holidays and kicking off a new 40K Campaign for the group here in Denver. I'm working on a 2nd one that is slightly larger. Going to try escot next month. Will post some WIP picture soon and as far as a How to, I'll see what I can come up with, but mainly I just took the model bitz and started creating > no real plan
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Pat, are you planning on using the hellions?
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Remember the plan! I want one exactly like it! And I'm going to GW the moment I know how to make one :D
Leech torps even damage now. How friggin AMAZING is that?
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Not anymore, but they do auto hit :D
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Oh wait, what? I thought they had it changed to doing damage.
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Check the latest FAQ... it has changed again!!
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Aw. Thats lame. They miss out on pulsars and such, they should at least have one wicked cool weapon. You are already rerolling hits anyway :(
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Phantom Lances are cool as well, have more chance on 2 hits then a Pulsar.
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Dark eldar need a hero ship much like the craftworld eldar have... that would assist in their longevity.
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WIP Pictures
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DEBC21.jpg)
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DEBC29.jpg)
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz334/patghiggins/DEBC26.jpg)
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kick ass. is that complete? seems some bits and weapons are missing.
escorts?
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....WIP Pictures.... yest there is more to go on it, have done anything with escorts yet
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That is cool.
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Indeed. So following in your footsteps :)
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heres my fairly simplistic take on a cruiser. JB + hellion board. has magnet underneath for weapon systems, might add some WBs somewhere.
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/skatingtortoise/IMG_7504.jpg)
and my current work on an escort - will add extra weapons/dorsal blades to them if i do anything. might get the GW conversion blister for this purpose.
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/skatingtortoise/IMG_7499.jpg)
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paint scheme reminds me of tron.
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Nice, yes it does have sort of a Tron look, but it is cool looking, nice job
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what can i say, im a big fan of jeff bridges :P
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What conversion blister?
Can we see escort next to cruiser for an idea of scale?
And as always, WIP how-to! :)
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the DE blister that comes with 3 fins and weapons. a load of those and i have plenty to magnetise up. ^^
scale:
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/skatingtortoise/IMG_7512.jpg)
profile of archon cruiser
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/skatingtortoise/IMG_7506.jpg)
top down of cruiser 2
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/skatingtortoise/IMG_7478.jpg)
cruiser 2
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g54/skatingtortoise/IMG_7509.jpg)
escorts: assemble hellion board as normal. take back section of DE body, trim the top and stick it to the front, giving the effect shown. if it were made properly, the front of the cockpit section would be at the base of a hellion's back.
cruiser 2: assemble jetbike chassis as normal, including fins at rear. turn over, and stick main hull to underside of chassis (now on top). chop off top of flight stand, and insert into top for observation dome. add shoulder pad to top as a kind of canopy. top fin is made by chopping the splinter rifle from the rest of the piece, and carving up to fit on the back. the splinter rifle is stuck to the front of the chassis, now underneath the hull. finally, i got some old jetbike fins (the only bit not from the kit) and sunk them into the bottom of the ship (where the saddle is), which also has a handly hole for a flight stand. extraneous footholds and handles were trimmed, then it was painted.
archon cruiser: build jetbike as normal hull and all, but slip in a hellion top half above the saddle. the top was then built up with various bits.
you cant see it in the pics, but each ship has a 3mm magnet sunk into the underside for weapon attachments.
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:o
Damn you
I worked, and fought and BLED to get my DE ships all set... NOW you just made me want to trash them and start anew. DAMN YOU SIR!
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à need the exact cost on how many models you make like that....
...excellence.
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the cost is 1 box of jetbikes (£21) and 2 boxes of hellions (£15 each) total of £51. the only extras used were the old jetbike blades on the second cruiser. with what i bought i was able to make 1 archon cruiser, 2 normal cruisers, and 9 escorts. if i had the funds to stretch, i would have got more hellions and made all the cruisers like the archon one, and added splinter cannons in more places.
painting was very simple: spray black, paint vallejo hot orange (GW blazing orange) onto orangey bits, add to it with 2-3 layers of cheap acrylic neon/fluorescent paint to make it 'glow' (the orange base coat makes it a darker orange than on white), clean up edges with black, highlight occasional edges with a dark grey and have a bit of fun with the jewels. dead simple (i just lack patience) :P
that, or get these, for about the same price, but getting 3 more escorts. less dark eldar-ey, more tron-ey, but you can always add spikes.
http://spartangames.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=43_60
(http://spartangames.co.uk/shop/image/cache/data/FAMP07%20-%20Privateer%20Corvette-250x250.jpg)
(http://spartangames.co.uk/shop/image/cache/data/FAMP08%20-%20Buccaneer%20Gunship-250x250.jpg)
the escorts look a better scale too :P
will post a full fleet pic when i get round to finishing them.
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Very Nice
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the DE blister that comes with 3 fins and weapons. a load of those and i have plenty to magnetise up. ^^
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(CUT)...
Damn...I hated Eldarkins...still today! But now....I'm falling in love...damn!
Thank You so much for the idea :)
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I just fainted when I saw those pictures...... WOW I think I have a few models to buy!!!!! LOL
-Zhukov
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I realize this is old, but I just noticed what appears to be metal in the WIP pics? I thought the kits were all plastic is all.
I'm bringing this up because I just ordered some DE boxes to start converting, and am still waiting on more WIP walkthrough! :)
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Yes the new DE models are all plastic. Don't get confused now, the Black with orange red highlights are by a different person than the ones with the metal bits. Just to clarify.
I need to finish painting my DE escorts. I did some pretty interesting weapons arrangements on my vessels using some of the pistols and such that were for the riders.
-Zhukov
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Got my shipment in! :D
But still no one with any real WIP :(
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Also realized that the hook chain bits will be perfect for Stryxis vessels :)