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Specialist Games General Discussion => Modeling & painting => [WM] a tale of warmaster painters => Topic started by: pw on December 31, 2011, 09:10:36 PM
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Hi All and welcome to the third Tale of Warmaster Painters! Thanks to Tristan for suggesting this, I for one need all the encouragement that I can get and I'm looking really forward to the next assault on the pile of unpainted lead.
What rules shall we have? I'd suggest that the tale runs for six months like the last two (though this might be too long?), that everyone introduce themselves, their armies, and their weekly/monthly goals in this thread and that we take it from there.
Best of luck everyone...
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I'll go first, aware that posting now confirms that my New Year's Eve isn't very exciting (though I have just made myself a very nice coffee).
I'm going to return to the Talabheim army with which I began the first tale, here's the best picture I can find of where things are at the moment:
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/Levinas/Empire.jpg)
Since that pic was taken I've added a second wizard, a hero on a griffon, a second unit of cannons and another unit of knights. I'll set them out for a picture as soon as I can.
I'm planning to add:
2 x Knights
4 x Halberdiers
2 x Crossbows
2 x Flagellants
2 x Pistoliers
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3 (bases of) Skirmishers
Helblaster
War Altar
Valten
Karl Franz
My aim is to get two units from the first section of the list painted per month and, if things go to plan, something from the second half to show when the 'proper' unit are going slowly. For me this is madly ambitious.
First up, a unit of knights. Why? Because they are one of the easiest of the 'proper' units and I want to start with a win!
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Hello,
I am planning on starting and finishing one of my remaining 3 armies in the next 6 months.
I see a few are planning on kislev so I may plump for Araby or Brets to keep it interesting (but then again may not ;)).
I am however in the middle of painting up my Menoth warmachine force as well, so this may slow me down from my usual frenetic pace ;)
I will list what I am painting when I can make my mind up and the first few weeks will of course be prep work.
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Here's the list of figures I plan on painting: they are for my friends Kislev army, and my personal goal is to have them all finished in time for an event I am planning in March.
Tzarina
3x Wizard
6xHero
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4x Kislev Bowmen
6x Kislev Axemen
3x Bears
1x War Wagon
7x Kislev Lancers
7x Kislev Horse Archers
I just picked up a tripod for my camera, so I should be able to post photos of the bare figs soon...
Tristan
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After a internal struggle for the decision about kislev or Chrisitian kingdoms (for WMM) I decide Christian kingdoms army.
Christian kingdom is based in El Cid army of WMM but like a century after, situated in the spanish crusade to confront the almohade army.
My idea is get a core of european medieval troops to use from X to XIV centries (being not too extrict) and could expand it easly to play other list of this period painting only 5 units each. Also it could let me play bretonians in fantasy.
Christian kingdom list is made in the scope of the battle of las Navas de Tolosa 1212, a very important battle in spanish floor.
Chrisitan kingdoms army is a alliance of three spanish kings in one army, King Alfonso VIII of Castille, King Sancho VII of Navarre and King Alfonso IX of Leon. So the army will have 3 command, King Alfonso VIII of Castilla will be the general, it takes an important role in the battle because he lead the final assault to the almohade campament, making the moorish army flee. Also this character is peculiar because written sources tell that he was a giant. The remains found in his tomb nowdays confirm he suffer a sort of genetic disease called gigantisim. So I do not know if or how I will represent this. Maybe with a 15mm figure.
The list is that follows:
Vanguard:- Templars (knights of santiago). Already painted.
- Templars (Order from Calatrava)
- Military orders (templars on foot) (Order San Juan de Malta).
- Mounted Crossbowmen. I have an already painted mounted crossbowmen but from XV centry. So I will use that until I buy a more accurate moutned crossbowmen
Center:
center:
- Castellian Nobles. kinghts
- Jinetes. light cavalry with missile
- Castellian infantry
- Archers
left wing:
- Mesanda aragonesa. nobles
- Jinetes
- Aragonese infantry
right wing:
- Mesanda navarre. nobles
- Vasque light cavalry
- Navarre infantry
- 3 commands. Chronicles are written by the Bishop from Toledo. Could be great to make a subordinate, but do not deceided yet
- Maybe a medieval campament, with tents, horse and these stuff
Some inspiration images about the army:
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/navas.jpg)
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/batalla_navas.jpg)
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/03RIMG0165.jpg)
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OK.... aftermuch delibiration (and some messy negotiations with the Missus) I will try and join inon this tale again. Instead of creating a new army, my youngest spawn and myself will be creating loads and loads (well hopefully) of Warmaster terrain over the next months, with themes varying from desert to jungle and from coastallowlands to highmountain valleys.
And to top the endavour off, we will finalize the tale in june with a brand new set of terrain rules for Warmaster...... 8)
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Hi
I have a few armies that are lying around in various stages of completion - from goblins who need two giants finished off (really boring to paint for some reason), elves that have 4 knights left, and an entire chaos army... and a lizardman army to collect the blisters for and paint. My daughter has been asking to play with daddy's toys! ;)
So, first up on the painting block for the month is the 4 elf knights. Next goal is to finish off the giants in February, and start in on Chaos in March.
I did get Space Hulk for Christmas... so I might delay things a month here and there for that.... oh look something shiny... 8)
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I'll join in with my High Elves, as I'm hoping to finish them in the coming months. I have the following left:
4 Spearmen
2 Reavers
2 Silver Helms
1 Dragon Rider
2 Eagles
1 General
3 Heroes
3 Wizards
The Spearmen are partially done, I'm hoping to finish those up before 1/21 and Ed's WM game day.
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@jchaos79 - sounds great. As for Alphonso VIII, just how big was he? Perhaps the 'Famous Familiar' knight might be ok, he looks like this:
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/Levinas/Warmaster/famousfamilars.jpg)
Of course, that depends on if he wore armour... And had a massive sword! The base is 20mm to give an idea of scale, he's a bit bigger than a WM Ogre so probably too big. If he looks even vaguely useful I can take a picture of him next to some WM figures (I bought one to use in my chaos army but you'd be welcome to have him).
Or, perhaps a more likely suggestion might be to get something from Kallistra, aren't they meant to be rather large (12mm)?
@Lex: that's a great idea for the tale. I've been thinking about doing something similar and hope to smallerizeTM some of the existing Warhammer terrain once my Empire are done, I really look forward to seeing what you come up with.
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@pw, the figure is great but too much fantasy style for the army I'm planning. Alphonso VIII is the dude on horse reproduce in both pictures posted. Full metal armour appear in century XV and XVI. Kallistra seems a good alternative, thanks.
@Lex, rules for terrain that will be much appreciated
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@jchaos79: I thought that would be the case. Let's hope Kallistra have something good. Which manufacturer are you planning to use for the rest of the army?
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Mainly Pendraken but I will use a little of GW and Old glory too.
Today I had been painting for the first unit of the Tale, :) The flock is now drying
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Well, here it is my first update: A unit of templar knights, order of Calatrava. They are shock cavalry and are knights, so they have a great attack.
As they are military orders I choose the scheme of white, black and red. When I painted the other unit before the Tale I went for white color scheme, so this unit I had gone for red/black tones to differenciate the units
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/templar.jpg)
The other unit
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/ordendesantiagob.jpg)
A source for the colours
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/Caballero.jpg) (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/Santiaguistasycalatravos.jpg)
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Good looking knights jchaos79.
I'll be joining with some Orcs and Goblins, as well as some Dwarfs later on. I'll post a list of my planned painting when I'm back closer to my models.
I'll be aiming for 1-2 units a month- yes, that's pretty poor but I am a very slow painter and have many other life issues to get sorted at the moment (eg. unemployment and possible relocation for job seeking). Hopefully I can do better than this, but I'd prefer a goal I should be able to achieve come-what-may.
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I thought I might be first with these but I see I've been beaten to it by jchaos! Nice knight there. Here are mine:
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/Levinas/Warmaster/P1000451.jpg)
Next up it'll be either a unit of Halberdiers or, if things go as expected rather than as hoped, Mini-Valten who I've just based up. Here he is standing on a pile of skeletons he pilfered from some passing Tomb Kings!
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/Levinas/Warmaster/P1000454.jpg)
In other news, I've just been given the marvellous gift of some Kislev units, this lot I think: Horse archers x 1, Steppe horse archers x1, Kislev archers x1, Characters x1, Kislev bears x1, Axe men x2, Kislev knights x2. These chaps may well feature in this army blog as an allied contingent (until I get more I'm thinking I might be able to use them as stand-in Empire troops to add a little sparkle to my army). It's a happy day!
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Those kinghts are great pw.
I like the idea of Valten on the top of a bone mountain! such a idea. One day I will do something very similar :D
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I started a thread for my Nippon army. Here's the first unit:
(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p435/BlackTemplarDad/Black%20Templar/Warmaster/DSC_0006-3.jpg)
I've got more photos in my Nippon thread. I hope you like what you see!
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Very nice indeed. Which reference is the dud with the katana over his shoulders in the last row of the left base?
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I like those Nippon, they look great. My only suggestion is to do something with the bases, they don't seem to match the figures for quality just yet (a quick devlan mud wash perhaps?).
Here's a mini-Valten from me:
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/Levinas/Warmaster/P1000456.jpg)
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PW: Valten looks great!
As for flocking: I'm waiting until I have more units done, then I will flock a bunch of units together. It was a bit of a stretch getting this unit done when I did!
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Thanks :).
I had a feeling that the bases weren't quite done. What are Nippon like to play (if you've tried them)?
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I've played against them. Daemons vs. Nippon. It was a very interesting game and fun game. Toward the end of the game it was a race between my instability checks and the break point of the Samurai. Ultimately, the Daemons won due to some spectacularly good die rolling.
The Samurai have a break point like Brettonians, which means they can waste lots of peasant units if they want to. With the Divine Ancestry and Retinue options, the army can be very anti-magic and can have some interesting special abilities. The Mystic makes a great retinue option, as he effectively provides a second command die roll.
I highly recommend giving the army a try.
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Nice to see this up and running again :)
Let's see if I can muster some time and motivation to contribute something.
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Wow that Valten seems great, I like it a lot!!
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Thanks jchaos. And come on schwager!
Here's my next unit, the filthy flagellants:
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/Levinas/Warmaster/P1000461.jpg)
I began painting this unit during the last tale and finally, after what must be a year, they're done! Next up, I aim to finish January off with something quicker, probably a character or some skirmishers.
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Wow pw, you have a great rate of painting. Those flagellants are great.
Here is my second unit in the tale: castellian knights (Caballeros de Castilla).
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/caballeroscastellanos.jpg)
I am a bit distracted finishing some araby fantasy army as flying carpets and now a unit of sandorcs. But when they are finished I will focus only in the tale :)
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Wow pw, you have a great rate of painting.
Not really, these chaps were almost base coated when I found them in the painting pile so this is a slight cheat! But, it's only thanks to the 'Tale' that I got them finished so I'm happy.
Those knights look nice, are they smaller than GW Warmaster stuff?
when they are finished I will focus only in the tale :)
Good news, it looks like it's pretty much us two doing this (or are others just posting to their own threads?). If the general thread isn't needed we can always go to each of us keeping our own 'diaries' instead?
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Hey! I'm here! I started my own thread. Nippon Army (BlackEd).
:)
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Doh! :o Of course you are! Three makes us a Tale I reckon! Shall we keep a monthly thread as well as individual ones?
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I think the monthly thread is what gives a common place for the Tale. I like the monthly threat
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Me too. It's what keeps me motivated.
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About the comparison size of the knights, here is a picture
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/comparacion.jpg)
Another close up
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/caballerosdecastilla.jpg)
And some inspiration for painting the unit
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/caballeros2.jpg) (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/caballeros.jpg)
The banner of Castilla in XII-XIII century was vertical narrow strips yellow and red. So I use this colours in the most of the kinghts, but to give them some contrast and colour I went for an anachronisim. I introduce some knights with the banner white and red with the castel and the lion. This banner is after the catholic kings (XV) when unified Castilla y leon. Here is a pic of the banner I am talking about:
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/caballroscristiano.jpg)
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Wow, they are small, or are GW's big (12mm)? I really like the way you're referencing historical images, it's got me all excited about getting a medieval army lined up (though I need to find the WM Medieval book first!). When I get round to it I am thinking about trying the TB Line figures that have been shown on the Market Place a couple of times. Have you seen them 'in the flesh'?
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(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/caballeros2.jpg)
These Look more like Ostland and Stirland Knights to me. :)
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@ doubleclickhere: Yea Ostland , I also see them with some bretonian style.
@ pw: could be some differences in size but in the middle of a battle does not any problem for me. About TB line, I have to say I am very interested in that manufacture. It seems quality figures with low prices. I have never seen the figures "in the flesh". It is a pitty I have almost my medieval army bought right now. But when they will be painted then I am sure I will have to expand the armies and then I will go for some TB reinforcement.
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I've got a character stand done. 8) And I've started on my General!
I will post pictures tonight, along with a link that I am using as a guide for painting my Nippon army.
The Warmaster Event that I organized on the 21st sorta threw off the painting schedule!
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Here is the first hero for my Nippon army:
(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p435/BlackTemplarDad/Black%20Templar/Warmaster/DSC_0009-5.jpg)
(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p435/BlackTemplarDad/Black%20Templar/Warmaster/DSC_0007-4.jpg)
(http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p435/BlackTemplarDad/Black%20Templar/Warmaster/DSC_0008-5.jpg)
The Hero is a converted Samurai Ape from Pendraken. I cut the arm from the shoulder, and bent the arm down so that the Naginata was level, making it almost look like he's gesturing with his weapon. Another conversion in the background. A Samurai Ape archer had the bow cut away and replaced with a banner. The kneeling and fist-to-chest position shows proper respect for his lord's honour.
No flocking was (yet) harmed in making this character stand.
The hero has a yellow face and ears. Samurai would often wear masks into battle, and this leader is doing the same. As a bit of humour, the cresents are painted as bananas, and the cresents on the banners are pretty close to bananas themselves. You could say I went bananas when I did the heraldry for this one. ::)
I do not know Kanji, so I apologize if I've put offensive words on the banners. (Who knew there was a glyph for "Your mama is so ugly..."?)
I'm drawing from this resource as inspiration for colour choices and banners:
http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?p=41560&sid=e28d92dafe433fa48f99259b324c7cbb
At some point, I will use the above webpages to come up with different sashimono (back banners) for my Samurai. There are some pretty interesting sashimono that were used.
I'm not following any house or clan, but am using color choices or banners that catch my eye. I am not (yet) a big Samurai fan, as I am doing this to pull a friend of mine more firmly into Warmaster (and he is a Samurai fan).
Hope you like!
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The hero is awesome! I love the kanjis, very sharp.
Can't see the bananas, but the yellow face is really great.
Conversions always give a sense of unique army.
Did you pinhole each figure to attach the shashami? where do you buy the shashamis?
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Pendraken sells packs of sashimono. I've been using mostly those. I also built some from paperclips, plastic card, and superglue. That was a lot of fiddly work.
I drill a hole into the back of the miniature. I bend the very tip of the sashimono to fit into the hole. For now I've been using super glue to glue the back banner in place. It sets more quickly than epoxy. If you'd like, I can take some close-up photos of the attachement point so you can see. I can also take some pictures of the process, if that helps.
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If you'd like, I can take some close-up photos of the attachement point so you can see. I can also take some pictures of the process, if that helps.
I think that's a good idea
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I like the monkey :).
I must admit I've cheated this week (I knew I would), I hadn't the time/energy for troops so I went for some terrain as I wanted to get something painted. Sadly, it's not helping the Empire army much as it's an Elven waystone thingy:
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/Levinas/Warmaster/P1000462.jpg)
Here the Light Wizard is sucking some of its powerful juice into his magic staff.
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That is not cheating, something in your armies has grow :D
Building terrain and scenery is as important as having an army, and your waystone thingy is pretty cool. Also the mage on horse.
My contribution is been blocked by some unit out of the tale, but I hope I could focus soon. Sorry
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Here's what I have for Kislev so far...
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6799061727_5e61b79977.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799061727/)
BEARS (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799061727/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6799065139_fb2c25c171.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799065139/)
BearUnits (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799065139/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6799063579_ae3d6452c0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799063579/)
Warwagon1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799063579/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6799064443_e8a0bebda1.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799064443/)
Warwagon2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799064443/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6799065761_55bde8e38b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799065761/)
Tzarina1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799065761/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/6799066177_6f3f79bf03.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799066177/)
Tzarina2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799066177/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6799066935_7925584afe.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799066935/)
Shamans (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799066935/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6799067891_888a9aae0e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799067891/)
BearHeroes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799067891/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6799069069_7a8e969ba0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799069069/)
CavalryHeroes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75636137@N06/6799069069/) by TristanHoag (http://www.flickr.com/people/75636137@N06/), on Flickr
Tristan
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wow the characters are impressive. Really like the tzarina katerina in a bear pulled slide. And the mage with the hawk is awesome!! where did you get the bird ?
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The idea for the bear pulled sled came from my friends - he also requested the polar bears. I am not exactly sure where the bird came from, but I think it was a Reaper pack of familiars...
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Fantastic! Am I right in thinking that this painting is going to be a present for a friend? If so he's going to be delighted.
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That's correct - and he will be presented with the fully painted army at an event I am planning in March (assuming all goes as planned...)