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Specialist Games General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mr Grey on May 01, 2012, 04:03:31 AM
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Well i'll start with the fact that I love the way the warmaster size give a grand army look. and by that I want a large army (Dwarfs) so I was wondering if someone could look over my army list and give me some critiques :).
General
1 Runesmith
Anvil
2 Runesmith
staff of spellbinding
scroll of despelling
4 Heroes
32 Warriors
12 Rangers
16 Handgunners
12 Slayers
8 Gyrocopters
10 Cannon
8 Flame Cannon
pts 9985
Thx
Edit: found an army builder... was over by 1000+ pts soz
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Yep, that's a large army. I've been doing this for years; I can tell.
All kidding aside, I'm no expert in the stunties, so I'll leave any real critiques aside.I will say I did some quick math and wish I could spend that on an army. Yowzers.
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Yea... its a dream army... so ya know slow buy, only gonna get a 1000 pts at a time and only gonna buy the next 1000 pts when the last 1000 pts are painted :)
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Hey lucky, you can have 15 points of magic items :D
Now seriously, that is a great bet for the spirit of warmaster, It will be delicous to see thise army in progress around here! I think you should look for azrael (the only dude that have 12k chaos army painted that I know) and have a battle, take pics and report it around here.
I am afraid I can not help you with your list, because I never played in that dimension of the game... and sounds great. The game could take you several days (I guess) . Also you could make static modelism with that army.
Really ambitious but I think it will worth.
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Are you not tempted to get 2 5000 point armies - so you can introduce other people to Warmaster with them? =-P
That is a LOT of stunties! I wish you luck with building it and please post the progress here! =)
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I have never played with so many points. It seems to me very few characters to move all those troops. ???
And also keep in mind the size of the table to play 10000 points battles!! :D
If you get to field the army let us know and share some pics!! ;)
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The sheer size........ mindboggling.
Concerning command-unit ratios.
For normal games with the dwarfs the ratios are prety simpel
1k - general and runesmith
2k - add 1 hero
3k - and 1 hero and 1 runsmith
After 3k I would guesitate that you will need 1 more runesmith at the 6k mark, and after the 6k mark you will need 2 heroes per K points.
Remember that you are no longer buying a general, which will free up points, but also that the ration on units vs brigades will start to totter, when creating things like a Grand Battery....
extrapolation
3K - add 1 her
5k - add 1 hero
6k - add 1 runesmith and 1 hero
7k - add 2 heroes
8k - add 2 heroes
9k - add 2 heroes (potentialy add more more runesmith, but I have trouble visualizeing the coverage ranges of an army this size...
10k - add 2 more heroes
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With that in mind its gonna be about what?
1 General
13 Heroes
7 Runesmiths
That about right?
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And also keep in mind the size of the table to play 10000 points battles!! :D
Yes that's true. I had a 4,000 point game at the weekend on an 8ft by 4ft table. It was just about right, and that was me allied with a chaos army (fewer units than normal)
So for 10k.....i'm guessing at least 12 ft table min, ideally around 14ft (and it'll still be cramped) or maybe a different shape such as a T shape table
It would look brilliant though ;D
Out of interest has your opponent already got a 10,000 point army?
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I haven't really had a game..... and the collection of this army will be slow, I have about 2 - 3k already though... gonna paint then see if I can get a game goin'.
And on another note anyone know what happend to the hel fenn battle report from the fanatic magazine resources?
Edit: I've been playing the thought of two 5000 pt armys in my head and it sounds like a solid idea, introduce people into warmaster and have a army to play against but the reason for me having a large dwarf army (10,000 pts) was for the idea of my hold against the enemies of the dwarven race soooo you know critiques.
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Wow never built an army of that size before. :) But you have at least 22 brigades and 7 character do seem a bit few, especially since in a game that size, your general isnt as powerful anymore.
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on another note if i get 2 5000pt armies what should the second one be was thinking
Goblin..... for the 'wade affext' that dwarfs could do... well in my mind anyway lol
skaven for a large army
brets for the entire turn of a cavalry army... ya know dwarfs only have infantry
anyone?
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Dawi and Gobi, a classic match up.
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I have quite a few army lists I was wondering if someone could once again critique.
5000 pt dwarf army
1320 - 12 Warriors
720 - 8 Handgunners
880 - 8 Rangers
480 - 6 Troll Slayers
450 - 5 Cannon
100 - 2 Flame Cannon
300 - 4 Gyrocopter
155 - 1 General
320 - 4 Hero
280 - 2 Runesmith
- 1 Anvil (50)
- 1 Staff of Spellbinding (30)
- 1 Scroll of Dispelling (20)
5005 - 45/23
5000 pt goblin army
840 - 28 Goblins
880 - 8 Trolls
960 - 16 Wolf Riders
960 - 12 Wolf Chariots
600 - 4 Giant
260 - 4 Spear Chukka
90 - 1 Goblin Warboss
- 1 Wolf Chariot (10)
270 - 6 Goblin Hero
140 - 4 Goblin Shaman
- 1 Scroll of Dispelling (20)
5000 - 72/36
5000 pt bretonnian army
440 - 8 Bowmen
360 - 8 Men-at-arms
540 - 6 Squires
1760 - 16 Knights
480 - 4 Grail Knights
600 - 4 Trebuchet
125 - 1 General
480 - 6 Hero
215 - 4 Enchantress
- 1 Unicorn (15)
- 1 Scroll of Dispelling (20)
5000 - 20/10
5000 pt skaven army
2000 - 50 Clanrats
495 - 9 Stormvermin
280 - 4 Jezzails
300 - 12 Rat Swarms
440 - 4 Rat Ogres
200 - 4 Warp Lightning Cannon
250 - 2 Doom Wheel
125 - 1 Screaming Bell
230 - 1 Grey Seer
- 1 Crown of Command (100)
560 - 8 Hero
120 - 4 Warlock
5000 - 86/43
5000 pt chaos army
1200 - 8 Chaos Warriors
480 - 8 Chaos Marauders
720 - 8 Marauder Horsemen
1600 - 8 Chaos Knights
130 - 1 General
- 1 Sword of Fate (5)
400 - 5 Hero
470 - 5 Sorcerer
- 1 Scroll of Dispelling (20)
5000 - 32/16
anyone?
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Can I just say - if you are buying these new from GW - I would really recommend buying the less common, later released armies like Skaven, Araby, Dark Elves, since the older founding armies come up much more commonly on ebay. A true horde of skaven like that would be an amazing thing to see on the battlefield!
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I'll comment on a couple of these:
I have a 10K Chaos Army (7K of it is actually painted) and a 10K O+G Army (8K of that is painted but I've got a brigade of Trolls and a Brigade of Black Orcs - Bel style with pig faced helms! - on the go as we speak!)
Chaos - You need to think in terms of brigades, is it a "hammer" brigade (e.g. knights, chariots,Dragon Ogres) or is it an "anvil" brigade (e.g. warriors, trolls, ogres, spawn) or is it a cheap, add to the break point brigade (e.g. marauders, hounds). I always try to field a ratio of 1/1/1. Too few hammer brigades and you wont be able to smash their cavalry, too few anvil brigades and you wont be able to take/hold terrain or a line of battle, too few cheap brigades and you'll be so outnumbered and have such a low break point that it will be difficult to win.
O+G - Night goblins are pants, absolutely pants. I take the minimums to lurk at the back, boost the break point and protect the artillery from flyers. Other than that, just hide them at the back. Take LOTS of Orcs, Boar Boyz, Ogres and Trolls and Black Orcs. The danger of playing an all goblin army is that you will enjoy collecting it, enjoy setting it up but then not have much fun as you are mashed in every game you play. In my 10K O+G list I have 20 Orcs, 8 Black Orcs, 4 Ogres, 4 Trolls and 12 Boar Boys - these are what will do all the killing. Also take lots of heros!!! e.g. You will need 12 Orc heros just to lead this part of your army, never mind all the rest of the "tat."
Dave
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Do you have pics of 10,000k games? :o
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I'd like to see that as well or just some picks of a 10K+ army would be nice.
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My friends and I played an 8K a side fully painted game recently and took lots of pictures. A couple of us (including me) wrote some battle commentary. The only problem is getting everyone to coordinate and send them to one person who then has the skill to post them up here!
I am terrible with technology and don't know how to post pictures. I will speak to my friends about it again.
Dave