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Title: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 08, 2012, 08:17:41 AM
SO before these move on to pastures new, thought I would offer them up to the community.
All are assembled and undercoated (with the exception of the kislev lot).

1 unit of empire teutogen guard
1 unit of chaos norse maruaders
SOLD
1 crested stegadon and crew

1 Kislev army (NOT PREPARED TO SPLIT)
Comes in @ around 3000 points
2 war wagons
2 units of bears
looks like 2 packs of characters
1 tzaarina
4 units of winged lancers (3 to a base to represent their lighter nature)
4 units of bowmen (6 to a base)
6 units of light horse (3 to a base to represent their lighter nature)
6 units of axemen

Sensible offers via PM please.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Big Red on September 08, 2012, 09:40:00 AM
PM sent re: Norse Marauders and Crested Steg.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Edmund2011 on September 08, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
Hey Azrael,

Are you interested in cash, or trading too?
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 08, 2012, 11:19:40 AM
Cash only, need to fund real life.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 12, 2012, 06:54:24 AM
Any more for any more?
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Christopher on September 12, 2012, 11:10:48 PM
Teutogen guard are out then?  :-\
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Geep on September 13, 2012, 07:11:16 AM
There are 2 lots going on eBay right now though- will be interested to see what they go for, as I haven't seen them up in a while
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 13, 2012, 07:28:20 AM
Teutogen guard are out then?  :-\
They have been up here for a few days now.
The thing with OOP stuff you need to grab it when it appears, trust me, I have been there ;)
Title: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: frogbear on September 13, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
I think part of the problem with offers is the feeling that you will offend.

It is much better when people know a price.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 13, 2012, 02:41:12 PM
Trust me, I have had some very offensive things said to me in my life  ;D
Asking to buy an army for under what I conceive to be it's value is not one of those things  8)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: David Wasilewski on September 13, 2012, 05:24:58 PM
O.k. - I'll give you 10 pence for the lot! :)

Dave
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 13, 2012, 05:46:17 PM
Ok, pop your address up here and I will send a few chaps round with it  :P
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 20, 2012, 11:00:07 AM
All up on eBay now.
Still in negotiations in regards the ship, so it may come off again.
Happy to early withdraw any item for the right offer.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: pw on September 24, 2012, 12:14:57 PM
What an excellent sale the Kislev is shaping up to be! I had some speculative early bids on all of your lots and had a feeling I'd be nowhere near the final price. How right I was!

It looks like people are hot for WM at the moment on ebay but where are they all playing?
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 24, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
I know, although there is a game down at our club this week  :D
As for the sale, I can't believe the interest, would have been happy with the amount it is now, so for there still to be 5 days left fills me with hope for a greater sale.

Looks like I will be getting 2 copies of xwing ;)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Stormwind on September 24, 2012, 02:34:55 PM
I too, have been wondering where all these bastards are who keep out bidding me on relatively common blisters. =-/

I've bid on things that then go for more than what they cost on GW.  And I mean, the founding 6 races like Marauder horsemen or Dwarf Rangers.  It's baffling.  It's no wonder then that the actually rare blisters for +£100
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: The Siege Tower on September 24, 2012, 04:08:18 PM
I too, have been wondering where all these bastards are who keep out bidding me on relatively common blisters. =-/

I've bid on things that then go for more than what they cost on GW.  And I mean, the founding 6 races like Marauder horsemen or Dwarf Rangers.  It's baffling.  It's no wonder then that the actually rare blisters for +£100

Geeze, I feel your pain. Was looking for BoFA Giant on eBay...found one, but it was going for $149.00!!  ::)  >:(
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: pw on September 24, 2012, 05:35:15 PM
Fingers crossed that you set a new record.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 24, 2012, 05:44:05 PM
Not looking for records, just to recoup my outlay.

As for prices going up, a lot of these items have been OOP for years.
Kislev went OOP just as I was starting and I couldn't afford to buy them at the time.
Shame, as it would fund a very good standard of living with these values :)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: David Wasilewski on September 24, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
The bidding does appear to be a bit mental (technical term) at the moment regarding rare stuff. I suspect that it is just two or three new guys with deep pockets going all out to win?

I'm just glad I picked up nearly everything I'd ever want for Warmaster back in the old days!
Anyway, good luck to you Mick, I hope you get a grand out of it all!

Dave
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Christopher on September 25, 2012, 04:56:20 AM
Things really only started getting crazy in the last 2 months or so. When I started in January of this year things were not as unpredictable as they are currently.  ???
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: pw on September 25, 2012, 10:24:02 AM
I guess that this sort of money isn't really a large sum to lots of collectors and as Mick says, they're long oop. And they are lovely figures too.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: marell le fou on September 26, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
I carefully follow prices by filling a database of all oop i can see on ebay. I confirm there is a sudden explosion for the last three month. Don't know why... Maybe, as said, one or two person suddenly decided to buy any oop they could ?

Last year, we noticed for the first time a unit went for more than 100€. I remember, they where dragon princes. Maybe north marauders went for such a price but that was all. Now, any oop is usually over 60$, and the rare of them are all above 100. Some go for mad prices (hammerers...). I can't imagine the price when something like a savage orc unit will be spoted on ebay. We just never saw it for years.

Siege tower, my dear, i may have some old bofa stuff i will gladly propose you for a much more decent price if you want. I'm happy to help in your return amongs us.
Title: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: frogbear on September 26, 2012, 10:02:59 PM
This is not entirely true. There are exceptions at times but i am still picking up Kislev stuff at reasonable prices. Most i have paid is $45 AUD for a Kislev wagon.

Lets not make it more than it is. Good luck for the OP definitely, but certainly not the norm.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: marell le fou on September 26, 2012, 10:12:33 PM
Yep, there are always exceptions. Panther knights went for a very low price recently, and kislev stuff sold unit per unit too last week. But the kislev army sold by azrael went for a high one.

Low prices where normal few months ago. Now, they are the exception.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: frogbear on September 26, 2012, 10:20:18 PM
:)

We will have to agree to disagree on that point then.

Be aware that people's interests in selling miniatures means that they have a vested interest in hiking the price up. You yourself no doubt are looking to sell your miniatures at a good price so everything in perspective right?

 ;)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 27, 2012, 06:54:53 AM
Me and Marell normally disagree about this subject  :o, BUT, if you have followed the prices of OOP stuff for as long as we both have you will have seen the prices steadily rise.

The last lot of Kislev stuff did go cheaper than normal, apart from the bears at £60 a unit, but then we have seen smaller armies than the one I have for sale go for more than it is currently at.
The thing with auction sites is that the market dictates the final price. I know there are a few people interested in it, but did not have the funds available at this time. So, at the end of the day, people will pay what THEY think is a fair price.

 :-*
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Stormwind on September 27, 2012, 08:10:35 AM
The thing about Kislev is that you can proxy historical units (as I discovered by making a topic asking about it) for most of the units, even something approximating a war wagon.... but the characters and bears are really irreplaceable, so they are the most expensive to buy now.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 27, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
Whilst that is true, some people, myself included prefer to own the originals :)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: David Wasilewski on September 27, 2012, 03:52:39 PM
The intersting conundrum for anyone looking to "invest" in oop warmaster is that surely, by now, most of the established 'hard core' warmaster players will have most of what they want by now? I, for instance have everything I could possibly want except one unit of Chaos Norse and 2 units of Knights errant. This means that unless new people with deep pockets keep entering the hobby, faster than older players are leaving, the oop will drop in price?

Caution: Your investment may go down as well as up :)

I just buy what I want because I'm going to enjoy painting and playing with them!

Dave 
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 27, 2012, 04:30:15 PM
My errants took a lot of tracking down.
Really must get round to painting up my brettonians :)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: marell le fou on September 27, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
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We will have to agree to disagree on that point then.

Seems we will. But i can provide a splendid graph of prices on ebay since 2010 and i can ensure you it ends up for approx all units/armies. I don't try to explain the market and the "why". I just give you a general tendance. We could make a precise analysys if you find this fun. Some armies are going to be more and more expensive, while some others stay very acceptable prices (gob mortars, phenix guard...).

I don't know if it will continue like that. As David says, it depends if new commers arrive, for, yes, probably all of us are near their goals in a matter of figs. I too only miss few references.

Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Lex on September 28, 2012, 08:40:58 AM
Marell

can you put that graph up ??  very interested !!
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: The Siege Tower on September 28, 2012, 12:25:08 PM
Let me know if you wish to ever get rid of one of those Errant units. I need one more for a brigade :)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 28, 2012, 02:02:01 PM
If I sell these, they will go with the entire army.
Unless of course you want to make me a tempting offer  ;D
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: marell le fou on September 29, 2012, 02:10:13 AM
What graph do you want exactly ? Give me a unit or an army. Or several.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Lex on September 29, 2012, 06:56:28 AM
What graph do you want exactly ? Give me a unit or an army. Or several.

I would be interested in the overal picture, and if you can show some of the more notabel units that would be nice too
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: marell le fou on September 29, 2012, 08:07:35 AM
An overall vision is probably not the most interesting, but i wil see what i can get.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: Stormwind on September 29, 2012, 03:38:40 PM
By Sigmar, it's up to £760.  I'm blown away.
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: David Wasilewski on September 30, 2012, 09:57:00 AM
1K, 1K, 1K! It may make it to the 900's?

Dave
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 30, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
All done now :)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: David Wasilewski on September 30, 2012, 11:20:18 AM
So, out of interest, what did the 3K point value Kislev army go for?
(I have one at home too)

Dave
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: azrael71 on September 30, 2012, 11:44:54 AM
An amount I am happy with :)
Title: Re: Last chance for OOP stuff
Post by: marell le fou on September 30, 2012, 09:15:09 PM
Graph published in a proper section in the Warmaster area.