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Warmaster => [WM] Warmaster Fantasy Rules Questions => Topic started by: Dobbsy on October 11, 2012, 05:09:03 AM

Title: Grey Seers and the Screaming Bell?
Post by: Dobbsy on October 11, 2012, 05:09:03 AM

For some reason I was under the impression the SB was a mount for the GS (Perhaps because the SB comes with a GS miniature on top). Is this inaccurate? Is the GS an "earth-bound" character just like everyone else's general?

Cheers all

Title: Re: Grey Seers and the Screaming Bell?
Post by: Big Red on October 11, 2012, 05:25:39 AM

With its position in the Army Table, it could be mistaken as a mount - most other mounts are listed after the General, Heroes and Wizards in their respective Tables.

But, having just read the Special Rule for it, it looks like it isn't a mount and it's actually a machine. 

The GS on top is probably artistic license from the sculptor.  Other Generals can be mounted on flying critters so aren't truly "earth-bound" compared to any Skaven characters who don't get access to any mount.

Title: Re: Grey Seers and the Screaming Bell?
Post by: Spectrar Ghost on October 14, 2012, 03:12:43 AM

In the 2003 Annual, the Screaming Bell is listed as a Chariot Mount with the same effect as the current bell, but a maximum 40cm move for the character.

I would hazard a guess that the effect was judged too powerful to be a near immune to destruction as a character, and it was changed to a Machine. This also explains its position in the selecter - it was simply never moved from its original location.

Title: Re: Grey Seers and the Screaming Bell?
Post by: Lex on October 14, 2012, 10:16:11 AM

Quote from: Spectrar Ghost on October 14, 2012, 03:12:43 AM

In the 2003 Annual, the Screaming Bell is listed as a Chariot Mount with the same effect as the current bell, but a maximum 40cm move for the character.

I would hazard a guess that the effect was judged too powerful to be a near immune to destruction as a character, and it was changed to a Machine. This also explains its position in the selecter - it was simply never moved from its original location.

Those Lazy Editors....   8)

IIRC Ghost is correct and the rules where changed, but the selector layout not.

Title: Re: Grey Seers and the Screaming Bell?
Post by: Dobbsy on October 15, 2012, 01:50:47 AM

Thanks guys

Title: Re: Grey Seers and the Screaming Bell?
Post by: Bel on October 15, 2012, 02:51:58 AM

IIRC Warmaster_Armies_Errata_2009.pdf supplies a corrected selector table.