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Battlefleet Gothic => [BFG] Discussion => Topic started by: afterimagedan on March 01, 2013, 09:31:57 PM

Title: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: afterimagedan on March 01, 2013, 09:31:57 PM
Gift pool rules: "Each capital ship in your fleet grants you 1d6 to roll on the gifts table. A capital ship that rolls a 6 for leadership selects a single gift from the gifts table instead of rolling for a gift. These gifts form a pool from which the player must assign one gift to every eligible capital ship in your fleet."

Old BFG:R with gift buying system (https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B1Nr32u9sF3EYWQxMjcxMmItMGU1MS00NzdlLTk1YTktZWQ2MmIwYjU2ZGUz/edit?pli=1&hl=en&docId=0B1Nr32u9sF3EMmZhMDlmNzYtYjY3YS00NjY4LTlmZGYtYzAxZGEzMmJjY2Vi)
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: afterimagedan on March 01, 2013, 09:40:57 PM
Great, there is no way to prevent double voting.
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: Bessemer on March 01, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
Delete and re-post?
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: afterimagedan on March 01, 2013, 09:44:33 PM
I can't delete this so a mod will have to.
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: AndrewChristlieb on March 02, 2013, 02:13:37 AM
How will these rules interact with the fleet commander? Faq2010 version has the commander picking one gift for his ship and then rolling for the second, if the result is the same then you can pick both gifts.

We could very easily just exclude the fleet commanders ship from the pool but that doesn't feel right. Maybe we can allow the fleet commander to pick one gift for his ship and select one result from the pool or re-roll one result from the pool, second roll stands and must be assigned to his ship.

 *revert back to faq2010 if the re-roll is the same as the first gift selected for the ship.
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: Vaaish on March 02, 2013, 02:47:08 AM
It is the commanders ship and the gift attached to him needs to stay with the ship. The gift pool only applies to the general selection of gifts, leaders or ship with their own rules for gifts would be exempt from the pool.

Commander gets to pick one gift as part of his rules. This gift does not go into the pool since its selection rules tie it to the commander.
The ship the commander is on is still subject to the normal rules for selecting gifts and rolls on the table. This gift does go into the pool.

Since you can't have two of the same gift and the commanders gift can't be assigned to another ship, that takes priority. You select a gift from the pool different from the commanders and continue assigning gifts until all are assigned
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: AndrewChristlieb on March 02, 2013, 04:32:54 AM
Oh I agreed that the commanders choosen gift should not go into the pool. The problem is that you have the chance to choose both gifts with the FAQ2010 rules and with the BFG-R version were working on that would go away.

Now I know that it shouldnt be a very common occurance for both to be the same result but it seems like just about everytime I play with them I roll the same result :P. It does seem odd that if were trying to remove some of the randomness of our random selection process were taking away the chance to choose a gift. Given the state that the rules are in now tho I dont really see this as a big issue I was just wondering if this was something we should be concerned with.
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: afterimagedan on March 02, 2013, 04:47:36 AM
Pick for commander first. Roll their gift for the pool separately. If its the same, pick the second gift for the commander. If not, the result is part of the pool results.  Then roll the rest of the pool.
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: AndrewChristlieb on March 02, 2013, 04:50:54 AM
that sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: Vaaish on March 02, 2013, 04:57:32 AM
I see what you are saying, and I think that getting to choose where the gifts go out weigh the loss of the second fixed selection.
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: AndrewChristlieb on March 02, 2013, 05:23:08 AM
that also sounds reasonable :P
Title: Re: BFG:R Vote 44: Adeptus Mechanicus Gifts
Post by: afterimagedan on March 02, 2013, 05:39:38 AM
I actually think that is a nice thing to include.