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Battlefleet Gothic => [BFG] Discussion => Topic started by: Andrew_NZ on April 26, 2013, 09:53:05 PM

Title: Fighters and Bombers
Post by: Andrew_NZ on April 26, 2013, 09:53:05 PM

I am a bit confused about the interaction of fighters and bombers.  Could you please help me out.

In the rules I've looked at it says to remove D3+1 bombers for each fighter. 
I take it that these mean stands (squadrons) in a wave that is being intercepted.

But in the 2012FAQ where it talks about resilient bombers (Mantas) the fighters seem only to be removing 1 bomber 'hit' for each fighter 'lost'.  Where has the extra effectiveness gone from the basic rules?

Say a basic fighter attacks 2 resilient Mantas.  How do people play this out?

Fighter rolls and scores, say, 3 hits (dice 2 + 1) which applied, one to each Manta, which individually survive on a 4+. The third hit then auto kills one Manta that survived the first round.  Overall there is a 25% chance that one Manta will have survived this round, it cannot move later in the turn and it would be auto-killed on a subsequent interaction. 75% of the time both Mantas will be removed.

Oooops, sorry - could somebody please move this to the Rules Question section - newbee.

EDIT.  OK so I was looking at the Beta 1.6 rules.
On the Basic rules the fighter just kills all non-resilient bombers. 
I assume that this is what the FAQ2010 is referring to?

Should I ignore the beta v1.6 rules?

Title: Re: Fighters and Bombers
Post by: Seahawk on April 26, 2013, 10:05:30 PM

Fighters remove all markers on a 1 to 1 basis, and never has been any more than that.

So, examples:

- 1 Fighter removes 1 Fighter
- 1 Fighter removes 1 Bomber
- 1 Fighter removes 1 Assault Boat
- 1 Fighter removes 1 Torpedo Salvo

Let's take your example:

1 Fighter moves into contact with 2 Mantas. It attacks the first marker. The Manta rolls a D6 for its resilience and it comes up a 4. The Fighter is removed from the table and the Mantas stay in place without harm.

Alternatively, should the Manta have failed its resilient save, it would be removed too, leaving a single Manta marker in the way.


What you were getting mixed up is the effect that a Fighter has on ship turrets.

For what rules you should use, read this thread: LINK (http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5203.0).

Title: Re: Fighters and Bombers
Post by: afterimagedan on April 26, 2013, 10:07:08 PM

The D3+1 rules are the original BFG Revised rules. That's probably why.

Title: Re: Fighters and Bombers
Post by: horizon on April 27, 2013, 08:15:17 AM

Read the link Seahawk provided. It'll make things clear. :)