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Battlefleet Gothic => [BFG] Discussion => Topic started by: afterimagedan on May 09, 2013, 10:20:32 PM
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Please vote! Also, if any typos are found, we can still change them. :D
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No link? :)
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Right, yes. Link!
BFG:R Chaos (http://afterimagedan.blogspot.com/2012/10/battlefleet-gothicrevised.html)
It's the same as the one you can get to from my forum signature.
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I like the changes to the Abbadon's 13th Chaos Cotillion fleet list and the Chaos Renegades fleet list to make them distinct and interesting. I went over it and put together a minor typos list that I'll go post in the Chaos BFG:R thread.
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Very good work on the fleet lists.
For me we it just need to be finalized (altough i'm not a fan of the Chaos Light Cruisers :P )
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Noticed some issues here:
1.Black Crusade needs to have a written in CSM entry on their page. I will get to that.
2. Secondary commanders are often useless. All the powers lists can take CSM for 5 pts less than a secondary commander and it does way more than the secondary commander does. 30pts for Ld 8? or 25pts for Ld 8-10 and all the massive load of CSM upgrades? What do we do with this... ???
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Go back to Chaos Lords being Ld +1? That's still a problem with +CSM, let alone +1 Ld prows, but iirc there's really only a couple of CGs where that's possible, and two where its a likely combination (Retaliator, Nephilim), and at that point they're costlier than some Battleships, so... is that a "problem"? Or does that make sensor prow Retaliators with CSMs or Chaos Lords mandatory for a competitive build?
Alternatively... Is it worth thinking about nerfing CSMs or limiting their use per full 500 or 750 points?
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Chaos lord at +1 would be a good change because it would then be an admiral you can add to ships for that bonus +1 instead of it being just set 8, even putting them on a CSM vessel. Anyone else game?
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I thought all of the secondary commanders were going to be +1 (max 9) for 30points. Ld8 is only worth 25pts from the fleet admiral pricing.
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For Imperials:
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=4965.msg38641#msg38641
For Chaos:
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5136.msg40547#msg40547
I don't think it would be much of a swap to just make the Chaos ones the same as the Imperials. Just go for it?
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IIRC they work(ed) that way in the Armada 13th Black Crusade list anyhow, so I certainly don't have any problems with it.
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What should we call them? Aspiring Champion?
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Rogue lords?
Arch-Heretics?
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I think Aspiring Champion fits in with the Dawn of War 2 heroes for Chaos as well. They basically have a Chaos Lord, Chaos Sorceror, and a "Plague Champion" which is an Aspiring Champion of Nurgle.
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It sounds cool, Im game.