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Warmaster => [WM] Warmaster Fantasy Discussion => Topic started by: honestmistake on June 07, 2013, 04:02:25 PM
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At least 2 of the alternative armies (Dogs of War and Albion) have Ogres in the troop roster but no mention of their hunger for manflesh excluding their own side... is this deliberate and intended as a balance factor or just a simple oversight? I can't really see any justification for having Ogres that won't eat their own side but having them do so makes them near unusable. My prefered option would be to rename them "Champions" or something similar and change the target for their must charge rules to Chaos/Undead but am worried that this really was intended as a balance factor and that doing this would basically amount to sneaking in a 5pt per unit discount.
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It has no sense a unit attacking their own comrades compulsory, even being Ogres they know what to do... at least until a minimun point ;D
Remember Ogres are too in Chaos armies, fighting alongside humans.
The rules say:
"If an Ogre unit can use its initiative to charge an enemy unit of humans at the start of the Command phase then it must do so. This happens automatically and their commander can do nothing about it. 'Humans' encompasses all 'men' including Chaos Warriors and Marauders, but not Dwarfs, Elves etc."
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Presumably there's sufficient discipline in the army that friendly humans are exempt. Unlike, say, rampaging elephants.
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Does it definitely say ENEMY humans? I don't have the army lists handy but I am pretty certain that the Albion army list doesn't specify Enemy...
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I have long intended to include ogres in my Empire army for friendly games. Ogres used to be part of the Empire for Warhammer. GW even made dedicated Empire ogres who wore Empire-style, landsknecht type clothing. Oddly, Foundry made similar ogres at one point.
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That's a cool idea! :)
Maybe with some 15mm landskenchts (and some conversions ;)) one unit could be done...
I have long intended to include ogres in my Empire army for friendly games. Ogres used to be part of the Empire for Warhammer. GW even made dedicated Empire ogres who wore Empire-style, landsknecht type clothing. Oddly, Foundry made similar ogres at one point.
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Even in the modern "hungry hungry ogres" fluff, they are not a force of Destruction, they are an unaligned army, like Khemri undead. At the very least the Man-Eaters are meant to go to far off lands and work as mercenaries unmolested.
They are still said to fight for whoever will give them gold and food.