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Warmaster => [WM] Warmaster Fantasy Discussion => [WM] Alternate settings and proxy armies => Topic started by: athensfantasy on August 04, 2013, 01:49:42 PM
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As many of you know, since GW stopped producing 10mm figures, I have started making lists that map warmaster troop types to miniatures that are widely available today and posted them on my blog.
for Lizardmen here is my list and feel free to either send comments on my blog, or use this thread to suggest improvements, alternatives etc
http://www.athens-fantasy.gr/2013/07/lizardmen-warmaster-with-non-gw-miniatures/
Skinks
Pendraken FTL6 Newtmen with sword
Pendraken FTL7 Newtmen with spear
Pendraken FTL8 Newtmen with bow
Pendraken FTL9 Newtmen with javelin
Pendraken FTL12 Newtmen command
Microworld 6mm Lizardmen
Saurus
Pendraken FL1 with sword
Pendraken FL2 with spear
Temple Guards
Pendraken FTL1 with sword
Pendraken FTL5 Command
Salamanders
Magister Militum 10mm DIN043 pack of five Velociraptors
Magister Militum 10mm DIN133 Sinornithosaurus
Pendraken FL7 - Pet dinosaurs - [pics]
Kroxigors
Magister Militum 15mm BDL002 Lizardmen Palace Guard
Cold one riders
Pendraken FTL10 - Raptor rider with spear
Pendraken FL6 - Lizard riders - personal opinion: the Tribal Raptor riders above look better
Terradons
Pendraken FTL11 Flyer
Pendraken FL9 Flying Dinosaur
Magister Militum 10mm DIN118 Hatzegopteryx - flying pose
Stegadons
Pendraken FL11 Giant Tortoise
Magister Militum 10mm Jurassic Dinosaurs - not sure which one is the best size-wise
Heroes
Pendraken FTL5 Command
Pendraken FTL17 Hero
Pendraken FTL16 Command, pose 2
Wizard
Pendraken FL5 wizards
Carnosaur (mount)
Pendraken AC11 - Assorted dinosaurs - haven't seen pictures... just guessing here
Magister Militum 10mm Jurassic Dinosaurs - not sure which one is the best size-wise
Slann Mage Palanquin
haven't found anything yet
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I agree with the Pendraken figures listed on the blog.
I would add a couple of options
Kroxigor
the 15mm Lizardmen from minibits (formerly with Pendraken).
Stegadon
I like DIN028 Ankylosaurus from Magister Militum - a good size, the texture of the back helps in building a howdah.
DIN033 Triceratops is perhaps a little small.
Carnosaur
DIN018 Carnotaurus - a good size. Needs a rider.
Irregular have a few Lizardmen - they look very different style wise from the Pendraken ones, might do for temple guard though.
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I have a hard time recommending irregular minis, very limited on the poses which can look a bit too regimented and fake, plus the batch of dwarfs I have really suffer with lots of flashing, I'll probably use them, but of all the various manufacturers I've stockpiled, they're really a level down in terms of quality compared to other models.... but then they're the cheapest around and not awful, just not as good as other things
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Yes, Irregular never seem nice enough, or cheap enough to be worth getting - though I do like the look of their dwarves. I have a few Irregular figures that I have acquired over time, and most seem better in the flesh than on their website.
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Irrgular lizardmen are cartoon like figures. Perfect to fight maybe the army of samurai apes or for Furry Armies. But if someone is willing to have an agressive / violent army I do not recomended
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Eureka released 10mm snakemen ;)
http://eurekamin.com.au/news.php?newsid=EFAyAFklpVCuYzxagP
(http://eurekamin.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4328&g2_serialNumber=3)
"Rumour has it that cavalry and fliers may be added to the range at a later date."
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Whoa! Wow! Good spot!
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Great, such a lovely surprise!
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Super! 8)
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although excited about the Eureka release I was hoping for a more aztec looking theme. Lets hop Magister Militum does better when they release their version
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Awesomeshotdude is working in some proxies for lizardmen, maybe they will have the loook you are searching for.
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=6211.45
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I have seen them and they look great! I cant wait till he makes them available!
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More proxies from Magister Militum:
Skinks - FLA103 Frogmen infantry with crossbows
Saurus - FLA101 Lizardmen infantry with swords
Temple Guard - FLA102 Lizardmen infantry with spears
Cold One Riders - FLA401 Lizardmen lancers on therapods
Terradons - FLA201 Lizardmen on Pterosaur
Stegadons - FLA402 Frogmen with crossbow on Rhinosaur
The only slight problem with the last one is that it's three separate Rhinosaur miniatures, not one large creature. I guess you could always place all three on a single 40x60mm base though.
No photos on their website for the Lancers unfortunately.
I think MM are going to produce Frogmen on Alligators, so maybe they could proxy for Salamanders? They are also due to produce a command pack, will that include a "Giant Frogman General carried by Lizardmen on a palanquin"? Perhaps one of the command figures could be a Lizardman riding on something large and carniverous?
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Its good to see all these new figures from MM - the more photos the better to see what they look like
MM already have a whole dinosaur range - so it may be possible to persuade them to add some lizardmen to some of them?
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Hey, has anyone tried to make a Carnosaur mount using a Cold One from the Warhammer plastic range?
There's the Dark Elf one which is really detailed and vicious looking but you'd have to slice off and remodel bits of saddle and harness.
Then there's the Lizardman Saurus Cavalry one. These look a lot goofier with ugly claws, despite being a 2004 sculpt, but they do have the right lizardmen glyphs and aesthetic.
I know that they're huge, but in Warmaster terms there are various larger models like dragons or proxies I've seen people use in larger scales that still fulfil the purpose.
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http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewtopic.php?t=15261
Ah, got it!
Here's a pic showing that the Cold One isn't actually that much bigger than the normal WM Carnosaur.
Would definitely need some greenstuff over the saddle though. x.x
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http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120208013_Ripperdactyls02.jpg
A friend suggested the Bloat Toad from this new sprue as a potential Slann.
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I like the idea !
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I was thinking that I might try using a skink priest of some type as a Slann proxy until I can get a real Slann.
Perhaps using a large Warhammer 28mm scale lizardmen stone idol behind him to make it clear he's in charge!
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The concept of Pendraken figures (giant tortoise) could fit with a general of lizards. It is not the same as slann as it is not fat as a toad.
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5362.msg44155#msg44155
As he is sitting maybe you could do a palanquin or sit him in front the idol or something.
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http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/lizardmen-stegadon-altar-stepsseat-p-4286.html
OK just saw this. Can't find it on eBay as a "bit" which is a shame, but I feel this would be perfect for a character stand of lizardmen!
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bits and kits. What an interesting company. I wonder if they could do the plastic units that make up BOFA?
They'd have to do:
1 x human archer strip
1 x human spearman strip
1 x dwarf strip
1 x elf archer strip
1 x elf spearman strip
1(?) x eagle
1 x goblin infantry strip
1 x goblin warg rider strip
1 x warg strip
Plus possibly the good/evil characters and the ruined buildings.
That would go a long way to recreating the BOFA set. Or letting people who already have BOFA but are missing a few items complete the set. I wonder if they have ever thought of doing that?
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Don't they just buy GW kits and split them into the components, and sell the bits of the kit? Presumably at a premium, but if you only want the head of 1 elf then its much cheaper than buying a whole pack.
They could only sell the BoFA stuff if they could get hold of it, which is sort of the problem for all of us.