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Title: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 05, 2013, 04:36:34 PM
Hey everyone.

I just recently picked up Warmaster again, the armies were still in boxes, but my terrain was sold/given away/lost.

Time to get building I'd say! At the moment I'm working on a heap of classic pre 1992 Orcs and Chaos, some of which I will use for Mordheim, and hopefully Chaos Warbands.  (an Oldhammerer here indeed) and my Warmaster terrain.

At the moment, this is what I have built so far. A set of trees using wire, plaster and flock, hills made from tinfoil, clay and plaster, and some ruins made out of cardboard + plaster. Plaster ALL the things!

(http://i.imgur.com/JjUbhSw.jpg)

I made an order today at leven miniatures for a dozen or so medieval building in scale, to make a village and hamlet, also a few windmills and watchtowers there. :)

My attempts at making roads failed miserably, due to warping of the cardboard. It really doesn't work as a base/ Any suggestions on how to make roads (or rivers for that matter)?
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Edmund2011 on September 05, 2013, 08:19:22 PM
Hi Tzigane,

Welcome to the fourm :)

Nice armies and terrain you have!

For roads, this is what I do:

Take a plastic thin sheet. It should be flexible but more or less stiff. I buy it in a local tools store.

Cut the sections, and cover it with glue and sand.

Once dried, paint with desired color and put grass on the borders.

Here are some pics of it, not very close to the road but you can get an idea.

http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5257.0
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: jchaos79 on September 05, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
Great terrain. I like the trees, are they bought or are hand made?
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 05, 2013, 09:04:34 PM
Thanks!
The trees are hand made,  buying them in this quality is expensive, and they're easy to make once you get the hang of it.

And, alright, plasticard seems the way to go then for roads!

I also made a test for a hedgerow which turned out well, using scouring pad and a cardboard base with some sand.
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: marell le fou on September 05, 2013, 11:00:45 PM
I like the trees too, but mainly like the way you based them. Do you plan to repart them throughout all the game just for pleasure, or to group them to obtain forests ? Anyway, i really like the idea of independent trees like this. I may copy your idea :)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 06, 2013, 10:06:54 AM
I'm not sure yet on how to use them. Probably group them together, and mentally draw lines between the bases to signify the borders. (also explicitly stating: "I move my troops in/outside this forest" helps I think. It's all abstract anyway.
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Lex on September 06, 2013, 10:56:08 AM
Sneak preview: using moveable markers to denote the state of terrain is part of the feature in the sunday playtest session in November.......
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 11, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
And a small hamlet for my board!

(http://i.imgur.com/8Tt7u0k.jpg)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Blindhorizon on September 11, 2013, 05:37:59 PM
Wow that looks pretty awesome, who makes that?
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 11, 2013, 05:45:15 PM
I ordered the buildings from Leven Miniatures.
Quite a great webshop, superfast postage and communication too. :)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Stormwind on September 11, 2013, 07:09:04 PM
Oh wow, Leven miniatures?

Those are only 6mm buildings - but actually they work really well to suggest a hamlet!  Argh I'm torn, I might want to get some, now.
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 11, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
I probably should not tell you that they're not expensive either.  ;D
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: jchaos79 on September 11, 2013, 07:55:25 PM
Really nice
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: marell le fou on September 11, 2013, 09:59:17 PM
I'm not fond of the houses, too modern style for me. But i do like your painting job, mainly on mud. Really nice.
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 16, 2013, 03:54:58 PM
Thanks. I agree on the houses, the other buildings I have will fit somewhat more:

(http://i.imgur.com/qdIoEks.jpg)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Stormwind on September 16, 2013, 05:11:19 PM
How are you mounting them, there?  Plasticard?

And is that miliput you're using for hills?

Are those all Leven models?
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 16, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
Yes, I use plasticard to base them on, modelling clay from the toy store to make the hills, and Leven Miniatures buildings on them. I will use cheap wood-filler to smooth out the ground, then use normal basing stuff to create a texture (PVA-glue + sand)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 19, 2013, 01:39:11 PM
This is the situation at the moment! + two white texturepainted boards.

(http://i.imgur.com/2jLwci6.jpg)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Stormwind on September 19, 2013, 01:57:09 PM
Oh wow!  It's looking good and dense!
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: jchaos79 on September 19, 2013, 02:19:02 PM
That village is advancing quickly.  :) Did the town major recalificate the terrain? becareful with the construction bubble  :)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 21, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
Thanks! This will be the whole urban terrain for now, after painting the houses I'll focus on the board, and terrain features like hills.

(http://i.imgur.com/xC5izem.jpg)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: andydorman on September 21, 2013, 07:42:30 PM
The trees look great. What flock did you use or is it clump foliage?
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 21, 2013, 10:50:20 PM
Thanks! The trees are indeed made with clump foliage, the hedgerows are made out of strips of green scouring pad. :)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: andydorman on September 21, 2013, 11:19:02 PM
I hadn't even noticed the hedgerows, I thought they were part of the cast model! They look great too!

One last thing on the trees; what did you use to texture the trunk? Is it just some milliput or something over the copper wire?
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on September 22, 2013, 10:24:53 AM
Ah yes. :)

The whole process for the trees was:

- make a twisted metal wire armament
- glue to plastcard base
- cover with wood filler and let dry
- PVA+ sand mixture to cover the base
- spray paint black, and paint the whole thing
- make a mixture of pva glue, water and flock and attach clumps of it with superglue to the trees.
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Tzigane on October 15, 2013, 09:00:53 AM
It took a while, since I was rather busy, but I have finished the village:

(http://i.imgur.com/9QI21bt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/rI5AZ71.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/16JemEz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nRBmk93.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/riT65kA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/8LTnzGM.jpg)
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: Stormwind on October 15, 2013, 11:07:52 AM
Oh wow!  Those brightened up my morning!

Those look really really characterful!
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: jchaos79 on October 15, 2013, 02:14:15 PM
Looks really awesome.
Title: Re: [WM] Terrain blog
Post by: marell le fou on October 15, 2013, 10:04:14 PM
Excelent. Maybe roofs are a little bit too blue for me, but the painting uality and choince of tunes are really good apart that. And it's only my opinion :)

Again, i like mud painting.