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Title: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 09, 2013, 11:53:40 PM: I'm currently painting a Black Guard unit of Dark-Elves, to be used as proxy for Lancers.

(http://data9.blog.de/media/413/7497413_396293ab52_l.jpeg)

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I had bought an already painted 1500 pts army, so i'm using the same painting schema. Mithril and violet.

(http://data9.blog.de/media/421/7497421_4a39a7baac_l.jpeg)

I had bought some original figs from Bell few months ago and it's time to use them.

(http://data9.blog.de/media/438/7497438_575f3912a1_l.jpeg) (http://data9.blog.de/media/439/7497439_886437393e_l.jpeg)(http://data9.blog.de/media/437/7497437_08aa9781b0_l.jpeg)

I'm not that fond of the champion, who looks like an assassin and was probably set up to fit this rÃ´le, but as i nead a leader, i finaly used him.

(http://data9.blog.de/media/201/7508201_6eebeaa2a1_l.jpeg)

At first, i set 6 figs per rank, as for the classical lancers, but Bell told me he used 5 and i finaly agreed. With 5, rankd looks approx the same as classical lancers and it's great like that.

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I used artificial stone from the Prince-August range and i'm very satisfied of it. It does grip well to the plastic base, has a nice aspect and a very thin granularity. The only bad news is that dry in few hours, so you can't hope to finish your session with painting when you use it.

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Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Geep on December 10, 2013, 01:21:49 AM: They look very good. What pieces did you use to convert them?
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 10, 2013, 01:35:16 AM: Original figs from the Characters blister. There are some dark elves on foot, plus the sorcerer.

(http://data9.blog.de/media/844/7535844_0c661f9542_l.jpeg)
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Bel on December 10, 2013, 03:13:06 AM: IIRC there was a sculpted BG leader in the pack - horned helmet/halberd, looks similar the drummer.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 10, 2013, 03:22:46 AM: You mean the content of the blister has changed ? It's the case for several charatcer blisters (kislev, dwarves, high-elves...).

Do someone had a picture of this footman ?
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Aldhick on December 10, 2013, 07:28:42 AM: wow... in terms of current eBay prices, this is gonna be one of the most expensive units ever :-D
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Bel on December 10, 2013, 08:37:41 AM: Quote from: marell le fou on December 10, 2013, 03:22:46 AM
You mean the content of the blister has changed ? It's the case for several charatcer blisters (kislev, dwarves, high-elves...).

Do someone had a picture of this footman ?

Nope. The one figure amongst those ones I sent.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 10, 2013, 11:55:36 PM: YES ! Yes ! I found it ! With my classical Halleberdiers of course, and it was the last figs at the bottom of the drawer...

(http://data9.blog.de/media/508/7541508_b680edd2fe_l.jpeg)

I gave him a black and gold schema, to indicate his rank. A little be kitch but it's clearly visible among the others.

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Here is the leaders base.

(http://data9.blog.de/media/511/7541511_cf6ccaa3bb_l.jpeg)

And the unit.

(http://data9.blog.de/media/512/7541512_da0f99a9a7_l.jpeg)

I began to put one fig and then artificial stone but it was loooong and i wanted to end the main part of the job today, so i finally glued everybody.

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And here they are with the Artificial Stone all around.

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I'm happy i made this unit. Bell's figs are great, and the unit has a nice looking. Different from the lancers, but not that much. Perfect for Warmaster and to be used as proxy.

I will follow with Executors and probably Corsairs, and it will be very nice to have units with different aspects, even if they are played the same way. I'm wondering about a unit of Chariots with Cold-Blod, but i don't have the figs three time. If someone does... I'm interested. To be played as prox for Cold-One Riders.

Artificial Stone from Prince August is really great. I appreciate it thinness. Hard to put between each fig, but with classical sprues it should just be perfect for basing.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Bel on December 11, 2013, 01:24:37 AM: I would make a red leader's plume. The black one makes him too outstanding. Golden details are enough.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Aldhick on December 11, 2013, 07:11:54 AM: Just a recommendation... now if you wash the minis with some shader, they are gonna look something like this:http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5412.0 (http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5412.0) with almost no extra effort...
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 11, 2013, 09:24:33 AM: I'm unsure. My colours are far less hot or flashy. No red nor exploding yellow.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: David Wasilewski on December 11, 2013, 07:45:14 PM: Love it - always nice to see cool and unique units. Good painting and modelling Marell and excellent sculpting Bel!

Would love to see this unit when its completely finished.

Dave
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 11, 2013, 10:32:26 PM: I hope to finish basing this week end or maybe this evening. I will add pictures when everything will be finished.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Stormwind on December 11, 2013, 11:09:50 PM: Is Bell still selling those, then? :-X
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Bel on December 12, 2013, 01:06:01 AM: Not now. Please wait for next year spring, there is some new stuff ready for moulding.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Lex on December 12, 2013, 11:37:44 AM: Quote from: Bel on December 12, 2013, 01:06:01 AM
Not now. Please wait for next year spring, there is some new stuff ready for moulding.

Ohhwwww is that what I think it is ?? 8) ::)
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Bel on December 12, 2013, 01:39:14 PM: Probably. But this is a thread for marell's BG.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 12, 2013, 09:24:20 PM: Advertising is gladly accepted if you give us preview pictures :)
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Bel on December 13, 2013, 12:53:50 AM: I prefer to not show intervening stuff unless getting final results. Sorry.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 18, 2013, 05:53:39 AM: Here they are during basing process.

Artificial Stone is really nice to work on. I'm happy with the result.

Brown paint, and then brown+black wash and finally gobelin green addition... On the main base, i have added dark green between the two last stages, but i finally prefer without.

(http://data9.blog.de/media/921/7574921_d2ac8adcf5_l.jpeg)

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Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Stormwind on December 18, 2013, 02:25:06 PM: Nice! They look suitably grim.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: David Wasilewski on December 18, 2013, 05:31:29 PM: Very nice. You have chosen a nice colour scheme.

Some well intentioned constructive criticism: If it were me, I'd try and tone down the brightness of the metal just a little with a black wash?

Lovely unit you have there.

Dave
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 18, 2013, 09:38:19 PM: True, i did not washed them. I was afraid it would lesser the bright aspect. I could have wahsed black and then re put some few mithril silver points, but i was unsure of the result.

I wanted a shiny aspect for elves are in my mind clad in mithril chain mail, not classical steel. So the blinking aspectsuits them well. Maybe a little too artificial, i recognise it. I may make some few tests and see what to do. Everything is still possible, even is they are based.
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: Stormwind on December 18, 2013, 11:26:41 PM: I think it's always worth trying a wash - remember that you can dilute it with a medium if you want. =)
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: marell le fou on December 18, 2013, 11:58:24 PM: I have no medium, i'm stuck in my island with few possibilities to buy one (means zero). I will go to France soon. Do you council one in particular ?
Title: Re: [Warmaster][Dark-Elves] Black Guard (proxi lancers)
Post by: afterimagedan on December 29, 2013, 04:59:15 AM: I actually dilute wash with just a TINY bit of dish soap and it works like a charm. Test it first, of course.