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Warmaster => [WM] Warmaster Fantasy Discussion => Topic started by: Vermis on January 01, 2014, 10:28:15 PM
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Hello! I can guess which option in this poll will get the most votes, on a Warmaster board, but I'm still curious about the potential numbers involved.
To expand on the poll question a little: I've been thinking about GW's final abandonment of Warmaster and it's minis as part of Specialist Games, and the recent growth in 6mm and 15mm minis. If you were to start a new fantasy army, for Warmaster or a similar game, and whether an addition to existing armies or starting the game from scratch, would you be tempted to use 6mm or 15mm minis rather than 10mm?
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I find 15mm to be a weird compromise.
6mm was what I was used to, playing Epic, but I find 10mm to be just big enough to be deatiled, and small enough to preserve the sense of scale of a large battle.
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Same for me really.
For my tastes, 6mm doesn't really work for fantasy/medieval as it is hard to get enough detail on the figures to differentiate between different units e.g. light/medium/heavy cavalry. 6mm does work for modern games that have tanks etc but not for 'humans and horses' based games?
15mm is, for me too, just a strange compromise scale now as few manufacturors seem to offer any more detail than can be made with 10mm. FoW is a good example - they seem to have less detail than other, much smaller models.
All I collect now is 10mm (for mass battles) and 28mm (for skirmish games and for role playing games like D&D)
Of course this is just my taste and I know other will disagree!
Dave
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10mm is my scale of choice. It gives the mass battle effect I am after and its monsters still offer opportunities for trying out sophisticated painting techniques.
I am lucky to have lots of unpainted 10mm stuff in my painting queue, but will still support efforts to expand the ranges available.
I do have quite a few 15mm armies for HOTT but I don't plan to collect any more in that scale.
28mm is for skirmish (e.g. I have a bloodbowl team and I am tempted by Mantic Games' Deadzone)
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6mm does work for WW2 Blitzkrieg Commander - but I still find myself drawn to the character and detail that 10mm provides. If I had been drawn more into it I might have made a Continuation War Finnish army.
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15mm is, for me too, just a strange compromise scale now as few manufacturors seem to offer any more detail than can be made with 10mm. FoW is a good example - they seem to have less detail than other, much smaller models.
10mm is my scale of choice. It gives the mass battle effect I am after and its monsters still offer opportunities for trying out sophisticated painting techniques.
6mm does work for WW2 Blitzkrieg Commander - but I still find myself drawn to the character and detail that 10mm provides.
I hear all that! I still have a great fondness for 10mm myself, and I've a sort-of new year's resolution to start putting out a few bits of 10mm fantasy. (Especially given SG events in 2013) But like I say, I've been knocked sideways a bit by the refreshed popularity of 15mm in some circles. Particularly with fantasy ranges like Demonworld, Khurasan, Copplestone etc.
I did have thoughts of 15mm ASoIaF meself, using Corvus Belli and Mirliton historicals. But to echo David, those were the only appropriate historical ranges that looked halfway decent to me! And from what I see in places, the popularity of 15mm is partly as a cheaper alternative to 28mm, for 28mm-oriented games, rather than epic massed-battle spectacle as with Warmaster etc.
No need to dismiss your own opinion, David. That's what I'm after, and thanks to you and everyone else for them. It's helped me to sort out my own thoughts, and realise they're more in line with those here.
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10mm for me. I find it at the limit of what I can semi-reasonably paint these days. Anything smaller and these aging eyes couldn't cope. Surely no manufacturer would limit themselves to younger customers in a western population that is aging. Plus older buyers tend to have more cash available than the young 'uns - money talks.
Edit: 15mm doesn't have the same mass of figures that 10mm does.
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10 or 12 mm is very good for mass combat games.
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10mm
The smallest size that still allow for details on the models
And then mass up the models for an army look
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I would choose 10mm , you have the detail and range of figures . I agree you get the massed army look . I have 6mm , Sudan extremely well painted . My friend has a large collection of ancients and napolionic's . They look go od , but for me 10mm look better .
Stuart