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Warmaster => [WM] Warmaster Fantasy Discussion => Topic started by: Dave on February 04, 2014, 06:05:48 PM

Title: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Dave on February 04, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
Jurisch brought up changing the fire arc on the Dwarf Gyrocopter to 360 degrees:

http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=4378.msg52053#msg52053

That raised a number of questions in my mind:

How are changes like these incorporated into the tournament lists? Do we vote? Bring them to a committee? Something else?

If the changes are incorporated, what do we do about the existing PDFs? Collect them all into another errata document? Update existing files?
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Lex on February 05, 2014, 08:43:26 AM
Lets establish the "How"  first

I am open to suggestions. I would consider running this like a (limited) council with the proxy to give a community approved "stamp".

A council of 12, with a non-voting, but tie-breaking chair (for which I will vollunteer).
Two rounds a year where suggestions can be brought forward.
A "spread"of members to represent as many meta-environments as possible.

 
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Dave on February 05, 2014, 01:55:59 PM
That sounds good to me.
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Geep on February 06, 2014, 04:36:20 AM
I agree it sounds good- where can we get the 12 members from though? and who?
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Bel on February 06, 2014, 07:09:57 AM
I think anyone who can play a lot of battles with/without changes - ie playtesting - and provide enough statistical data.
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Lex on February 06, 2014, 09:01:38 AM
That, plus I would like to have players from various groups, so (from the places I am aware about)

(5) Europe, (one of the skandaskavians, a Brit, and players from eg. Franch, Poland, Germany, Austria)
(4) Americas (Canada, eastern en western seaboard, Texas?)
(3) Azia/Australia/NZ/Siberia

So what we want is openminded people with enough "status" in their localized community to "represent"

And if we put this up I would suggest that after the first wave of vollunteers  8), "members" take place for 2 years? and get reassigned after that? or something?  to keep a fresh perspective
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Dave on February 06, 2014, 08:34:07 PM
Not sure if we'd be able to get a person from all those groups. New England is the biggest WM group in the States that I know of, and we top out at 8 on a good day (more like 4 on average). There's a small group in Chicago that isn't very active on this forum, and a fledgling group in Texas, but those are the only ones I know about.

Not to say that we shouldn't try, but 12 might be tough. Either way we stand ready to playtest, some less curmudgeonly than others.
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Jurisch on February 07, 2014, 08:09:57 AM
Hi,

would be happy to join.

We shouldn't forget the active Spanish players.

Regards,
Jurisch
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Jurisch on March 11, 2014, 09:36:09 PM
Hi,
Any news on this?
Regards,
Jurisch
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Lex on March 12, 2014, 08:38:14 AM
The core is in place (me) and what I need is vollunteers.......
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Jurisch on March 12, 2014, 07:17:53 PM
You can count on me!
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: honestmistake on March 14, 2014, 02:11:02 AM
I think perhaps a 'codex' recommending new, optional, house or tweaked rules rather than an update which changes any core rule would be a much better idea. For example, I suspect that the 360 degree fire arc wouldn't get much approval from my regular game group as we often see the Gyrocopter cause mayhem as is (other times it dies ingloriously). Similar problems could no doubt be raised by some players about other changes. Clarifications  to existing rules are one thing but actual changes based on the opinion of the small number of players active on this board over-writing long established base rules are  not something i feel is appropriate.
Title: Re: changes to tournament lists?
Post by: Bel on March 14, 2014, 04:30:46 AM
ie recommendation set