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Warmaster => [WM] Warmaster Fantasy Rules Questions => Topic started by: Dranask1 on January 29, 2015, 01:00:14 PM

Title: Can you charge flyers on a hill, over friendly units?
Post by: Dranask1 on January 29, 2015, 01:00:14 PM
In the rules it says that for a unit to charge an enemy unit you must be able to see it.
That intervening units prohibit the charge as they block LOS and the OFC charge itself.
Infantry on a hill could see the target, but if there are intervening allies then their charge is blocked.
It also states clearly that flyers can't charge a unit if allies are between them as they start on the ground and therefore can't 'see' the enemy.

I am aware that artillery on a hill can do what archers can't i.e.: Fire over intervening friends.

Because it states in advanced rules that unlike archers artillery can fire from a hill position over the top of friendly units at enemy units. So archers on a hill with LOS can't fire at enemy if friendly unit intervenes, but artillery can.

So what if the flyer is on a hill, it can see over the allied unit, it flies to the enemy, so the friendly unit doesn't physically block movement.

Might we say that Infantry on a hill with LOS can't charge an enemy if friendly unit intervenes, but flyers can?

What is the correct ruling?

How do people play it, are their any house rules?
Title: Re: Can you charge flyers on a hill, over friendly units?
Post by: Dave on January 29, 2015, 01:53:34 PM
It's not allowed, if it were it would make for some difficult situations when it comes to initiative. For example, would they have to charge an enemy already in contact? Or a unit in support that can't be reached because bases can't be placed in contact with it.

Allowing it might be more realistic, but it would require a lot of "what if"s to be laid out in the rules.
Title: Re: Can you charge flyers on a hill, over friendly units?
Post by: Dranask1 on January 29, 2015, 02:54:44 PM
We 98% thought this might be the case, but thought to check in case our interpretation was in error.

Thank you
Title: Re: Can you charge flyers on a hill, over friendly units?
Post by: Bel on January 29, 2015, 03:18:55 PM
LOS for charge must be drawn on the ground. Ever.