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Warmaster => [WM] Warmaster Fantasy Discussion => Topic started by: Grimnir on October 08, 2015, 11:54:47 AM

Title: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Grimnir on October 08, 2015, 11:54:47 AM
Hi Bretonnia players!
I was just wondering how other people usually "build" their armies and what strategy they usually use.
So I have 3 questions that I'd like to ask you guys:

1. Do you use the "classic" list or the one from Trial Armies Compendium 2009?
2. Do you prefer Cavalry-hard army (maxing the # of knights) or Infantry-hard army (maxing the number of disposable cannon-food)?
3. Do you start with defensive strategy or start aggressively from the beginnig?

So far, I have an impression that most people prefer more knights over foot soldiers. But maybe, I'm wrong. So please enlighten me.  8)
Title: Re: Bretonnia
Post by: Grimnir on October 08, 2015, 11:58:11 AM
For me, the answers are following:
1) Tournament list (with reliquae and pegassus knights).
2) I definitely prefer having a lot of infantry to sacrifice. On 2000 points, I usually have Break Point of 4.
3) I'd probably define my style as dynamically defensive. I try to push infantry to the front quickly (if the commands are successful) and hide the knights behind them, waiting for the right moment to strike.
Title: Re: Bretonnia
Post by: Lex on October 08, 2015, 01:52:22 PM
For me, the answers are following:
1) Tournament list (with reliquae and pegassus knights).
2) I definitely prefer having a lot of infantry to sacrifice. On 2000 points, I usually have Break Point of 4.
3) I'd probably define my style as dynamically defensive. I try to push infantry to the front quickly (if the commands are successful) and hide the knights behind them, waiting for the right moment to strike.
1) original
2) well balanced towards BP of 3 or 4
3) chicken-knights !     (use the infantry as a "mobie" castle and use well aimed sacrifices to lure attacking enemy in chargerange
Title: Re: Bretonnia
Post by: Grimnir on October 08, 2015, 01:56:53 PM
1) original
2) well balanced towards BP of 3 or 4
3) chicken-knights !     (use the infantry as a "mobie" castle and use well aimed sacrifices to lure attacking enemy in chargerange
Chicken-knights  ;D I love that expression :)
BP 3 or 4 on 2k points is quite a lot of infantry.
I have to adjust my answer here a little - I usually have an extra 100 or 200 points because of the campaign rules.

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Bretonnia
Post by: Lex on October 08, 2015, 02:02:27 PM

BP 3 or 4 on 2k points is quite a lot of infantry.
I have to adjust my answer here a little - I usually have an extra 100 or 200 points because of the campaign rules.

Thanks for sharing.

I end up with lots of DRAW results on account of winning with not enough points
Title: Re: Bretonnia
Post by: Grimnir on October 08, 2015, 02:21:45 PM
I end up with lots of DRAW results on account of winning with not enough points
Hehe  :D Yes, that's dangerous. If you sacrifice too much infantry, you need to keep in mind to kill valuable targets.
In one of the recent games, I had to surround and kill a unit of Arabian Elephants (to get enough points) because I previously fed them with a lot of infantry.  :D
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Stormwind on October 08, 2015, 03:30:23 PM
By chicken knight do you mean the Pegasus Knights, or knights that are hiding amongst infantry? :-X
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Lex on October 08, 2015, 07:11:43 PM
By chicken knight do you mean the Pegasus Knights, or knights that are hiding amongst infantry? :-X

The knights that sit out the tea-break while the poor infantry gets slaughtered. My younghest dubbed my Bretonians the Chicken Knghts WAY before Gerard came up with the pegiknights
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: spiritusXmachina on December 07, 2015, 07:36:37 AM
Hi all,

Out of a sentimental mood I had a look. The discussion puts a happy happy smile on my face.  :)

In earlier times I always tried to have a good mix of knights and common troops. Maxing out on cavalry was always a bit boring to me.

@Lex: Greetings to A.! And it hurts me a bit that he called them chicken knights! ???  The knights do nothing else than giving their commoners a chance to earn their battle honours!  8)

What abut the new support rules? Do they change the situation for brets?

Greetings,
Gerald
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: jchaos79 on December 07, 2015, 07:43:07 AM
Hi Gerald, it is great to read you again in this forum!
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Lex on December 07, 2015, 09:47:36 AM
@Lex: Greetings to A.! And it hurts me a bit that he called them chicken knights! ???  The knights do nothing else than giving their commoners a chance to earn their battle honours!  8)

Actualy I think he called ME a chicken

Quote
What abut the new support rules? Do they change the situation for brets?

Not so much for the Knights, but the foot gets a little more sturdy
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: spiritusXmachina on December 13, 2015, 01:21:54 PM
@Lex: Of course it is only part of the Chaos strategy to call the noble bretonnian chicken! 😉
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Bel on December 16, 2015, 11:25:58 AM
the noble bretonnian chicken! 😉

Like these ones?

(http://cs633624.vk.me/v633624242/4e02/aQRvlRR7Y8s.jpg)
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Lex on December 16, 2015, 02:58:19 PM
SANTA IS COMMING TO TOWN !!
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Bel on December 16, 2015, 03:04:17 PM
nope, sorry. not this race.
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Tiberius on December 16, 2015, 06:18:05 PM
What miniatures are those Pegasus knights?
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: jchaos79 on December 16, 2015, 06:32:30 PM
They look awesome!
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: kyussinchains on December 16, 2015, 08:12:13 PM
are they not the Eureka models?
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Tiberius on December 24, 2015, 12:25:51 AM
I meant to ask earlier, where do those bases come from?  Do they come from Eureka as well?
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Bel on December 24, 2015, 02:37:50 AM
If u mean my photo - no, these ones are not Eureka. I would say these Pegasus Knights are 'very deep' conversions from GW knights - ie GW knights were basic + some sculpting + wings from GW DE Razorwings. Bases are laser cut plexiglass from my Polar Fox range. Only issue with them is to fit the bases together, it is fixible but not with ease.
Because they are 'conversions' I can't sell it in the store but I think I could make a gift to all those who would buy some stuff of my own sculpt, the photos will follow.
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Stormwind on December 24, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Bel is hardcore!
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Geep on December 25, 2015, 01:16:47 AM
I would love to have some Pegasus Knights like that! I really like how you've mounted 2 to a base, when most people just use 1.
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Tiberius on December 25, 2015, 03:50:07 AM
I agree!  They are beautiful!  Someday I will be making an Orc army. Hopefully I will be ordering some of your minis!
Title: Re: Bretonnia - How do you play it?
Post by: Grimnir on January 24, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
Bel, those are nice conversions!
I plan to use the WH40K flying base sticks for the Heureka Pegasus Knights.

Question for everyone using Pegasus Knights by Heureka - did you also have to adjust the rider's legs so much? To me, id doesn't seem to be a good fit.


And a followup to the original question:

How do you play the Bretonnians?