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Title: 10mm (Back to work!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on April 22, 2016, 04:18:22 PM
Hello there all!

I'm brand new to finally registering on the specialist games site, after being a regular lingerer a few years ago. So I thought I'd introduce myself with a project log since, lets face it, we all just like looking at models and getting an idea of what folks are into!

As for myself; I'm a collector who fell back into the hobby about a year and a half ago after finding a hoard of miniatures from the late 90's to early 2000's and relapsed..... bigtime. Since then I fall in and out of love with scales and games but my current passion is 10mm Fantasy, which I've been collecting on and off throughout my fall from the wagon, and am building up a number of Warmaster armies (proxies and all) as well as some mico-Mordheim warbands. Enough waffle, on with the pictures:

First up the beginnings of my micro-Mordheim Goblins (Polar Fox.... Yummy):

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/mordheim-gobbos-1.jpg?w=660)

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/mordheim-gobbos-2.jpg?w=342&h=359&crop=1)

The start of my Araby/Free City army, test pieces for the front rank of some Elite Jezail marksmen unit:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/pendraken-araby-2.jpg?w=660)

And finally my Chaos Dwarf Maggot Monster complete with (rather obviously) homemade howdah and Cannon of Evil (the cannon is from a Dystopian wars model I think), still lots of construction work needed on the howdah i.e. more spikey bits. Here it is charging at some remarkably steadfast Goblins:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/maggot-3.jpg?w=660)

Thanks for looking and I'm looking forward to having a good rummage through the forum.
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on April 22, 2016, 04:22:51 PM
Welcome Grumbledook,

wow good ideas around, very nice technique, very clean and neaty in the jezali.

Big maggot is "delicous" idea
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on April 22, 2016, 07:16:21 PM
Really fab stuff all around, welcome!
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on April 24, 2016, 10:54:30 PM
Really fun and promising :)
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: adamsg01 on April 28, 2016, 12:55:54 PM
Welcome to a kindred spirit (i.e. professional lurker who recently returned to hobby after a number of years inspired by a purchase, or find, of some really cool 10mm minis) . Interested to see how the large maggot paints up - should be fun. Out of interest what brand are the arab blokes - nice paint job too. Look forward to more piccy's as your forces progress.
cheers

Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on May 03, 2016, 11:45:29 PM
Hello again, I appear to have fallen off the internet for a while!

Thanks for the feedback chaps, I've been keeping busy and have a few more offerings to present. First up another couple of rather rum looking Goblins:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/cockygobbos-front.jpg?w=660)

I've also decided to have ago at making some buildings for my 10mm micro-Mordheim. I haven't been able to find any decent medieval style ruins so I thought to hell with it, I must be able to make something with foamboard, card, matchsticks and lollipop sticks! And here we are, nearly done but I need to base it and cut quite a few more tiles:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/6.jpg?w=660)
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/7.jpg?w=660)

And finally, here's a rather rough start at a sculpt for an Arabian style mage:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/araby-sculpt.jpg?w=660)

Thanks for looking, hopefully more appearing soon!
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on May 04, 2016, 12:11:55 AM
Those projects all look great!

I know you intend that for small scale Mordheim - but is interesting that finding 10mm ruins is rather difficult.  There was a chap a while ago on this forum who showed similar WIP pictures which looked really promising which he intended to cast and sell in resin but, unfortunately, we've not seen him in a bit.

The Arabian mage looks like an absolutely excellent start!  Are you creating a proxy Araby army, or perhaps using him to add spice to an Empire / Dogs of War army?
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on May 04, 2016, 06:23:12 AM
wow I am impressed, nice ideas and excellent executation (paint, scratch and modelling).

The scultp is awesome, you certain have the GW WM style

Maybe you should talk with Dave?  ::)

thanks for sharing

Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on May 04, 2016, 11:41:47 PM
Excellent ! Very nice job.
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on May 20, 2016, 07:55:52 PM
Thanks for all the positive noises guys, and apologies for the delay in responding.

Stormwind: I've finally finished the tiling on the house and am pretty pleased with the result, will get a photo up soon. I was thinking of planning some sort of modular ruin/building pieces since casting would be a bit of a nightmare otherwise, another project to add to the list, whether anyone would be interested in buying them on the other hand... well who knows? More on the Arabianesque wizard in a moment though, I've got plans!

Have managed to get a couple more Goblins painted up:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/gobbos-front-may-20th.jpg?w=660)

I'm really pleased with how these are progressing and they're great fun to paint!

Also currently on the go I've sculpted a bit more on the wizard - although no photo yet. I'm planning to basically sculpt a load of figures and have started on a spearman, I'm wondering if casting them would be a good idea but I'd have to outsource that and that'll be a bit of a learning curve... but hey, never too old to learn right? Need to get them sculpted first though! I suppose this links in with jchaos79's comment, I've got some of all Dave's Landsknechts and think the sculpting and casting is second-to-none so it's probably a bit out of my league. Happy to keep dreaming though!

Another little project is my 6mm proxy Empire pikemen (baccus6mm War of the Roses Mercenary Pikemen), which just need a bit more work and basing (groan), then I'll put a picture up. Guess I'll have to broaden the title of the thread though.

Lots to do, but loving every minute of it.

Thanks for looking.



Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on May 21, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
Are you going to base them for warmaster 6mm?

I have persian and greek armies for warmaster ancient in 6mm and it is a pleasure to play with. I also play with alexander and indian 2mm armies. The experience is also very recommendable. Warmaster works great in smalls scales.
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: adamsg01 on May 22, 2016, 10:13:59 AM
Nice work there. You can sculpt and scratch build and they all come out excellent - you are very talented. Really interested to see how the painted house looks also. You do keep yourself pretty busy with all these projects on the go. Good luck and please do keep providing updates.
ta
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on May 22, 2016, 10:24:38 PM
Yep, very proper painting job. The thundra style is very nice. I love this range. Polar Fox is really doing great stuff.
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on May 26, 2016, 09:25:05 PM
Cheers folks!

jchaos: I do love 6mm armies, nothing quite compares with them visually and I've painted quite a few Napoleonics for people over the last year. The pikemen are now painted and varnished...... just the bases to sort out. I've got some Sarmatian cataphracts somewhere, which might make quite a nice Dogs of War unit..... Khusrow's Karaphracts perhaps just to give them a bit of Indo-Iranian authenticity?

adamsg01: Yep, far too much going on at once, but I'm a bit of a magpie and want to be collecting and working on everything at the same time. No sense making things practical eh?

marell: Loving the Polar Fox stuff at the moment, just received my Skeleton army and really must start on it at some point. It only took me a year to start working on the Goblins.

I've managed to get a bit more done on the Wizard sculpt, getting there but the arms are a bit long - fortunately they don't stand out too much when it's not right up in your face. Hope you like.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/araby-sculpt-2.jpg?w=521&h=587)

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on May 26, 2016, 09:37:43 PM
That is a really beauty... yes I think it has all the feeling of GW arab range. And also I could say quiality ...
Indeed it is a good work.

Iranian cataphracts... oh yes you should share the pictures!
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on May 26, 2016, 11:31:29 PM
Bloody hell that's good
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on May 30, 2016, 03:33:59 PM
Thanks for the generous comments chaps.

Finished off the Wiz, just added the missing hand and put a few more flames on the staff - I think he'll do.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/wiz-1.jpg?w=227&h=274&crop=1)

I've also been converting some Baccus6mm Wars of the Roses crossbowmen to look a bit less medieval by adding some puffy sleeves, floppy hats, bits of armour and even a diddy little skull on a couple of them! This has been keeping me occupied while I wait for my Microworld order to be released from customs - boo hiss to HMRC.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/xbow-2.jpg?w=660)

I hope you think they look as convincing as I do!

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: mlkr on May 30, 2016, 03:47:41 PM
Color me impressed!
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: dry_erase on May 30, 2016, 10:27:59 PM
Brilliant. Any chance you'd get the wizard cast up?
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on May 31, 2016, 12:25:19 AM
Bloody hell you've got a talent.
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on June 01, 2016, 12:24:52 AM
Very kind words chaps, always appreciated.

dry_erase: I've got some plans to get a small range of figures sculpted up to make it worth getting a disk made up for spin casting. Will take time though as I'm always fiddling around with other projects.

A bit more of the 6mm Empire proxies, these are Baccus Late Medieval Mercenary Pikemen painted up to look Empire-y:
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/warmaster-pike.jpg?w=660)

And here on a movement tray with a dice holder to track damage:
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/dragon-rampant-pike.jpg?w=660)

The crossbowmen are getting primed and I'm also converting some Late Medieval Men at Arms into an as yet undecided knightly order.

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on June 01, 2016, 06:18:49 AM
Hey, they are nice for 6mm. Well done painting them !
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on June 01, 2016, 05:41:13 PM
Absolutely stunning
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on June 01, 2016, 09:25:44 PM
The paint is delicous!

If you have plans of spinning some figures and you are going to sell them, comment around here, I could be intrested in :)
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: MaWo79 on June 06, 2016, 09:48:16 PM
Really nice stuff. I totally like the idea of a scaled down Mordheim. I wonder if this is possible with Warhammer Fantasy as well. Has anyone ever tried something like that? I know that there is already Warmaster but playing Warhammer Fantasy in a smaller scale sounds somehow interesting to me.
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on June 06, 2016, 11:10:29 PM
Thanks again for the comments folks!

10mm Araby superman in progress, photo soon, started doing the dollie of another one. More goblins and a troll (oh my) primed up..... so there is lots on the go!

MaWo79: I'm quite interested in using the models for a kind of scaled down Warhammer Skirmish game, I remember a skirmish book being released but don't know if there were any specific rules involved. I was thinking of using regular Warhammer fantasy rules, but with a small warband - a bit like the LOTR game i guess. Also, I've got loads of old army books and the early ones are packed full of cool stuff like runes, etc. and I'd love to get some mileage out of them (ironically, given my current painting, the Orc and Goblin book is one I don't have!).

So, basically, I reckon pocket Warhammer would be pretty awesome! 
Title: Re: 10mm (and now 6mm too) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on June 06, 2016, 11:10:36 PM
Here is report of a battle of mordheim using WHAA system in 10mm

http://javieratwar.blogspot.com.es/search/label/Mordheim%20using%20WHAA.

seems like fun!
Title: Re: 10mm Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on June 09, 2016, 12:08:14 AM
jchaos79: Read the battle report, looks like a really good little game! I'm planning to do a low model count skirmish using some modified Dragon Rampant rules - they seem pretty fast paced and look simple enough to make a conversion from units to single figures...... just need to get some opposition for my Goblins to fight!

So finally, after many promises, I've got a picture of the spearmen in various states of completion along with a strip of Araby figures to give you an idea of scale.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/sculpts1.jpg?w=660)

Quite pleased with how these are coming along, and I'm managing to keep (fairly) focused on the project!

More goblins and a troll being painted at the moment, woo!

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on June 09, 2016, 01:22:46 AM
Sir,

I feel you underestimate your talents.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on June 09, 2016, 01:59:09 PM
I do not think the metal ones in the picture have a better quality than the greens one.

Same proportion.
Smooth surfaces.
Sharp detail.
Defined elements and features.
Plausible poses.
Realistic to cast (not imposible scorzos or thin shapes that spinner could not cast).
Concept homogenous to araby line

just the way I see the greens.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: dry_erase on June 09, 2016, 07:11:05 PM
You're very good at this! Would you be able to show one of your armatures? I struggle to make them at 10mm and any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on June 09, 2016, 08:25:39 PM
Thanks chaps!

dry_erase: Providence smiles on you! Seriously though, I've just been making some armatures and after reading your comment I've put the process up on my blog. Then I thought, 'hells yeah!' and thought I'd put it on here too for convenience.

Now, I found this process ages ago somewhere online so cannot claim responsibility for the technique. Needless to say it probably saved me from totally giving up on sculpting anything this small, since my previous attempts really sucked!

Things which I need:
•0.7mm wire
•Something to cut said wire
•Fingers

First of all I cut a couple of lengths of wire:
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/step-1.jpg?w=352&h=420)

The long piece of wire is then wrapped the very tip on the little finger, resulting in a loop in the middle of the long piece of wire:
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/step-2.jpg?w=348&h=344)

The shorter length of wire is then placed in between the overlapping halves of the long wire – the pressure at the base of the loop should hold the wire in place, like so:
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/step-3.jpg?w=367&h=262)

Then, pinch the loop and short wire between thumb and any finger of choice (forgive the un-manicured fingernail, printing ink is tough to remove):
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/step-4.jpg?w=329&h=416)

Then TWIST, and I mean tightly! You don’t want the short piece of wire to drop out. Normally I give it 3 good twists, this tends to give enough ‘torso and hips’ for a 10mm figure:
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/step-5.jpg?w=439&h=332)

I like to just put the tiniest drop of superglue onto the twisted wire and let it dry just to give it some added strength. Once dry, you can then carefully >ahem< snip away the superfluous length between the legs. I tend to leave the arms in their loop formation  while getting the body and legs bulked out, then snip and pose them later:
(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/step-6.jpg?w=660)

Ta-Daaaaaa! I like to leave the length at the head end just in case I want a plume or spike (so far I’ve made one plume and no spikes – quite a repertoire). I then use a pin to put a couple of holes in a cork, the wire is too flimsy to just stick in, making allowances for the base bit then trim and organise the arms later.

So, no magic involved. Hope that helps you get sculpting!

Thanks for looking
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: dry_erase on June 09, 2016, 10:07:50 PM
Thanks - that's much better than the armatures I've cobbled together in the past. Now to decide what to sculpt!
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on July 13, 2016, 10:30:04 PM
Hello all!

Real life stuff and my easily distracted nature have resulted in general annoyingness. However, back on track-ish again and a little group shot of stuff you've already seen, some added details and a couple of dollies:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/july-16.jpg?w=660)

The hope for the next couple of months is a variety of additional spearmen (I think a mix of six or seven rank and file should be enough) and a command group. Then I start to seriously think about getting some cast up..... or if it's even economically viable to get it done. I have a dream (nothing grand) of sculpting an entire fantastical Arabian army with Assassins, Guard units, ranged units, mythological beasties, whopping great artillery pieces and so much more. This is very much a long term project (probably a few years) which will no doubt be something of an albatross about my neck..... so best get cracking then!

This all has to get done whilst normal job-life goes on and my 3 and a half year old stops me from doing anything hobby related until the hours of darkness. As I said, a dream but a noble one I hope.

Thanks for looking.

P.S. dry_erase: no problem, hope the armature is useful. Come up with any ideas on what to start on yet?
Title: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: andydorman on July 14, 2016, 05:54:59 AM
Very talented - even when I can see exactly how it's done it still looks like witchcraft to me!!!
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on July 14, 2016, 10:00:49 PM
Beautiful work, mate.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on July 16, 2016, 07:30:23 AM
Well to cast your figures I know Leon from pendraken do this services. I do not know the prices but probably not too expensive but it will take long time due to load of work. Yann aka barbarian did it.
Maybe you can even have a deal with Leon and Dave and buy your masters to be included in their catalogue. Black Ed did it.
At last there is other way, order the cast to a company of casting not only miniatures. It will be fast an probably expensive. I think is what Dave from warmonger does.

Maybe could be worth to pm these three forum members and ask them for their own experience about casting.

Go ahead with your dream and enjoy your boy.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on July 16, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
Thanks for all the positive comments chaps.

Jchaos79: Thanks for all that info. I should probably start to get in touch with some people, I've bought pendraken and warmonger miniatures so know the quality is high. I hadn't thought about selling the masters, but would certainly consider it as I can see a number of advantages to it. Also, would need a buyer!

Hoping to get a few more tiny bits of putty on tonight, then intend to start basing my warmonger pikemen.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on July 17, 2016, 10:46:05 PM
WOoooo really promising. Continue like that and you will produce very nice stuff !
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on July 18, 2016, 08:45:21 PM
Managed to get a bit more putty playtime in;

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/18-07-16-1.jpg?w=764&h=626)

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/18-07-16-2.jpg?w=942&h=468)

I’m also getting daring……. I’ve got an idea for some allies/nominal subjects for my Arabians. From the ever shifting dunes the great wandering tribes of the desert Trolls emerge to fight for the great Merchant Princes of the Arabian city states, lured by the generous and pay and more likely the more than generous post battle feasing! Here’s a sneak peek for scale:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/18-07-16-3.jpg?w=496&h=594)

It ain't much yet I know, but I've got plans for the nomad tribes.

Thanks for looking

P.S. sorry about the huge pictures, hope to sort that out at some point.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on July 18, 2016, 10:10:55 PM
Pictures are ok, don't worry. We are happy to check everything from close sight.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on July 19, 2016, 12:12:46 AM
This is all fab and exciting. =)
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Tiberius on July 19, 2016, 02:13:03 AM
Very nice work.  It is indeed exciting.  Really impressive work, keep it up!
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Aquahog on July 19, 2016, 09:16:13 AM
At this speed you'd be able to sculpt your own unique army in no time. :)
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on July 23, 2016, 11:10:42 PM
Thanks chaps, managed to finish off the two most complete ones:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/23-07-16-1.jpg?w=898&h=578)

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/23-07-16-2.jpg?w=900&h=618)

Just spotted the hole on the back of the right hand guy's head, need to fill that.

And yes, skulls are totally allowed! More being done at the moment, tentatively adding bits to the desert troll too.

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on July 24, 2016, 12:59:53 PM
I like the pose of the right!

good work
Title: 10mm (back to sculpting) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: mlkr on August 01, 2016, 01:41:56 PM
Everything in this thread is very impressive. Great sculpting on the arabic mini's. Looking forward to seeing more :)


/Mlkr
Title: Re: 10mm (Micro Mordheim interlude) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on August 03, 2016, 03:37:43 PM
Thanks for the continued compliments chaps. I've got to shape the spearpoints on a couple of the figures then I'll have my magic number of 6 spearmen finished..... a picture will follow soon!

In the meantime I've been playing around with a concept for a modular Micro Mordheim board:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/mico-mordheim-board-1.jpg?w=990)

Also still painting up some more Goblins for the warband, might be adding a few Orcs too. Really need to put together another warband at some point, although I've got a load of spooks, ghouls and skeletons based up I really want a decent old school Dracula in 10mm to lead the group. Might have to have a go at sculpting one, hmmm.

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (Micro Mordheim interlude) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on August 03, 2016, 11:13:04 PM
Really love your mordheim 10mm project !
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on August 05, 2016, 09:00:53 PM
Thanks marell, it's pretty good fun to develop it kind of randomly. More goblins being painted at the moment as well as a load of spooks and skeletons!

Here's a long promised update on the Arabian spearmen, six sculpts done and here they are hanging tough with a wizard:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/full-compliment.jpg?w=660)

And here they are mixed in with a load of other miniatures:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/comparison-shot.jpg?w=660)

There are more words on the blog as well as another sneak peak of some of what's to come.

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on August 06, 2016, 12:32:52 AM
If you want an old school dracula then you really want the minor vampire on foot from the Vampire Counts command blister...

Love what you've done so far!
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on August 15, 2016, 11:23:58 PM
Thanks Stormwind, I haven't had much luck trying to find a picture of the minor Vampire on foot but if he looks anything like Bela Lugosi then I'm keeping my eyes peeled!

Not enough sculpting going on, I've got a unit captain on the go and the Troll-things are developing. But the long gap between adding new layers is starting to annoy, so I'll be getting more dollies into corks so that I can get more done at the same time. On the other hand I've been able to get some painting done which means some things have been finished off- woop!

Gobbos for the Micro Mordheim:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/goblins.jpg?w=660)

And finally I managed to get my pikemen based and finished off.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/pikes-2.jpg?w=700&h=&crop=1)

At this rate I should have half an army finished off by 2025..... my dreams of re-enacting the End Times in 10mm with chaos being vanquished should become a reality by the time of my 3rd reincarnation.

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted miniature interlude) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on August 15, 2016, 11:58:47 PM
http://s648.photobucket.com/user/jchaos79/media/GW/characterscondesvampiros2.jpg.html

2nd from right figure but he's more Christopher Lee than Mr. Lugosi!

---

Oh lovely pikemen!  Are they done from a white undercoat?



Title: Re: 10mm (Painted miniature interlude) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Aquahog on August 16, 2016, 11:38:30 AM
Those pikemen are magnificent!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted miniature interlude) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: empireaddict on August 16, 2016, 05:25:39 PM
What he just said.  Great pikemen!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted miniature interlude) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on August 18, 2016, 08:35:31 AM
Thanks guys, picking a 3 colour combination for the pikemen means that they take a surprisingly long time to paint......... but it's kind of worth it in the end.

@Stormwind: these chaps were primed black, which was only because I've always primed anything under 28mm in black in the past. No more though, I've started priming everything in white now. In fairness, the goblins I'm painting at the moment get dulled down pretty quickly once a couple of washes goes over the base layer. We'll see how they come out!

In other news, almost finished my unit captain, and I've found a caster who has one of the figures to make a sample/test cast from. I can then get a painted example done. Just need to get more figures done to fill the mould, save up some pennies then there will hopefully be a modest number of units cast up. It'll take a few months to finish sculpting and get stuff organised, but things will happen and it's all rather exciting.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted miniature interlude) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on August 22, 2016, 11:13:06 PM
A little update to show that this project is still going on - a combination of attempting to decorate and childcare (always condusive to getting stuff done) has slowed things down a bit. I've finished the Arabian Captain (one of several in due course) so here's apicture of him hanging tough with some pals:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/captain1.jpg?w=408&h=458)

More sculpting still going on; namely a standard bearer and another spearman (hell why not? Because I really don't fancy sculpting a musician - that's why) and I've nearly finished painting a few more Goblins. Hopefully there will be more to put up soon.

I also managed to avoid buying some 28mm figures...... that would've been unhelpful to say the least! But I did treat myself to a pdf of the Otherworld Miniature Skirmish rules and they actually look pretty fun - more so at 10mm!

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Captain finally finished) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: industrialtrousers on August 22, 2016, 11:51:52 PM
Great stuff. Lovely sculpts. Massed ranks of these blokes are going to look excellent. Glad you're going to get them cast up.
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Captain finally finished) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on August 23, 2016, 11:09:07 PM
Really really good stuff.
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Captain finally finished) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: dry_erase on August 23, 2016, 11:26:17 PM
I need some of these amazing Arabyans to take on my undead! Do you know how they would go along with some of the historical Ottomans/Saracens/Turks?
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Captain finally finished) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on August 23, 2016, 11:50:00 PM
These are looking gorgeous!
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Captain finally finished) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Meraklis on August 25, 2016, 09:52:00 AM
excellent work! I hope you start casting them sooner or later so I can get my greedy hands on them :)
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Captain finally finished) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: empireaddict on August 25, 2016, 10:18:56 PM
Really like the Arabian spearmen.  I would definitely buy some of them.
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Captain finally finished) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on August 27, 2016, 01:10:19 AM
Thank you all for the kind comments! It really is a bit of a labour of love and It's great to be getting such positive feedback.

Just a quickie of some WIPs:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/group-and-scale.jpg?w=660)

Another spearman in progress on the left (unfortunately my less than astounding camera and harsh lighting have drowned out any details) and my two gradually forming beefy troll-like things are taking shape in the middle.

@dry-erase: I've popped in an Ottoman commander from Pendraken since it's the only historical range I own. I also did some measuring with a digital thingy to give more of an idea of size which are take from the foot to the eye:

Pendraken Ottoman Commander: 9.67mm

GW Araby: 10.1mm

My efforts: 10.81mm

Warmonger Landsknecht: 10.87mm (one of the bigger figures from the Halberdiers set, which I love)

Also, the Turbans seem to add a good couple of mm  :D Hope this helps a bit.

Thanks for looking.

Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on August 27, 2016, 08:41:03 AM
Good work on those scultps.

Those troll-like fgiures remember me the Tapasa from Berserk comic, have you read it?

 They are assasins bodyguads, extremely strong and agile. I am not sure if they are human or not, I supouse they are not.

(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/tapasa_zpsjhezh06r.jpg)
Title: Re: 10mm (Arabian Captain finally finished) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: dry_erase on August 27, 2016, 12:05:51 PM
@dry-erase: I've popped in an Ottoman commander from Pendraken since it's the only historical range I own.  Hope this helps a bit.

It does - looks like they fit pretty well with existing historical ranges and I could build an Araby force blending them together. That said, I've found the biggest issue with historicals are the horses.. GW mounts are generally so much bigger.

All still looking fantastic, by the way...
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on September 01, 2016, 09:04:52 PM
@jchaos: Great picture and thanks for sharing it! I'm not at all familiar with the comic but I think I'm definately going to have to look into that. They look a bit ogre/mutanty - which is king of what my big brutes are turning into.

@dry-erase: I totally agree with you on the horses, the Araby horses and Camels are HUGE...... but utterly lovely!

Tiny update from me. Gradually preparing for the traumatic return to work so hopefully I'll be continuing to get stuff done - planning to do a bit of sculpting every night so things continue to develop. Anyways, here's the latest work in progress:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/wip-1st-september.jpg?w=660)

Another almost finished spearman, some work on the 'thing's' face, and Mr.Tickle is going to be the long awaited standard bearer.

Also, I'm picking up a pair of sample casts from one of my spearmen so I hope to get one painted soon! Really looking forward to seeing how they turned out... fingers crossed.

As always, thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on September 01, 2016, 10:42:20 PM
Considering the originals, i rally think your casting will be at the same level as GW stuff !

Everyting you did is just awesome !

You should consider a kickstarter to finance everything better.
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on September 01, 2016, 11:07:37 PM
thumbs up, men!
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on September 01, 2016, 11:58:09 PM
Really encouraging stuff!
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Meraklis on September 08, 2016, 01:55:32 PM
those look beautiful!

You should really consider to make these available for purchase or start a kickstarter or something!

There is a huge demand for araby themed figures and the currently available alternatives are sub-par at best.
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on September 08, 2016, 08:23:27 PM
Wow, thanks guys!

The plan is to get moulds made and have them cast up, so hopefully in the not too distant future I'll be finished with sculpting a couple of units - spearmen and the ogre types - as well as some characters to add colour. Once that's done I plan to get them moulded and cast which will hopefully result in an initially modest number for sale.

In regards to a Kickstarter I'm not planning anything like that at this stage. The main reasons are I want to find out if this whole idea is a reasonable one (basically if anyone wants to buy the models) and I'd honestly hate to disappoint people if they back my project and things don't go as planned. I'm lucky in respect that my costs are only going to be the mould making and casting since I'm not needing anyone else to do the concept sketches, sculpting or painting and since this all falls under my own hobby time (and I'm a terrible boss who pays me in beer!) I'm really enjoying seeing this idea become and actual thing.

Anyway, enough of that, here are some more progress on the sculpts..... and even something shiny!

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/ogres-and-banner.jpg?w=656&h=322&crop=1)

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/ogre-side.jpg?w=229&h=276&crop=1)

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/ogres.jpg?w=423&h=276&crop=1)

And now the sample cast which I'm really excited about:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/metal-1.jpg?w=330&h=419&crop=1)

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/metal-2.jpg?w=322&h=419&crop=1)

So there we are, hopefully this is the future! There's more words on my blog about why the ogre type chaps look like they do if you're interested.

Immediate plans are to finish painting those ever lurking goblins, finish the 2nd ogre (and start another), finish the standard bearer, paint up the metal spearman. hmm.

Thanks for looking and once again it's a real boost getting all this moral support!
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on September 08, 2016, 09:43:02 PM
Great news,

when you cast them up, I would like to buy one of each references
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on September 08, 2016, 10:09:57 PM
Nie quasting quality. It will surely end as a success.
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Meraklis on September 08, 2016, 10:52:55 PM
When you release them I will also join the band wagon!

Keep it up! I am really looking forward to what is to come!
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Aldhick on September 09, 2016, 07:20:07 AM
Wow, stunning sculpsts! Looking forward for more!!!
Title: Re: 10mm (WIP update) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on September 26, 2016, 08:13:03 PM
Wow, thanks for all the support guys.

There's been a bit of a slow down in updates, but the first few weeks of term have been pretty hectic and my usual midnight modelling sessions have been a bit disrupted by the small person who's going through one of those 'stages'.

I have made some progress with the standard beared almost done, the second ogre nearing completion and even the musician has finally been started in earnest.

Today though, something with a bit more colour..... mainly green. The the little group of Polar Fox Goblins and Troll have finally been painted and here they are:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/goblins-and-troll.jpg?w=660)

Always great fun to paint, the assassin was particularly fun as a model and the Troll is just a brilliant model.

Anyhow, thanks for looking and more will grey stuff will hopefully be up soon!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Goblins at last!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on September 26, 2016, 10:06:01 PM
Niiice !

You're right, the gob assassin is fun :) And the troll very original.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Goblins at last!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on September 26, 2016, 10:09:01 PM
Oh wow, I love that troll!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Goblins at last!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Tiberius on September 26, 2016, 10:12:14 PM
Beautiful!  Nice work, I love the sneaky looking little assassin!  But they all are great.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Goblins at last!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on September 27, 2016, 12:28:19 AM
Such a lovely warband!

Great paint and Bel... superb sculpts
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Goblins at last!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on October 03, 2016, 09:38:00 PM
Thanks everyone, there are a couple of space hoppers, a shaman and the Arabian sample on the painting table next.

Also another mini WIP update. More on the second half-ogre, the standard bearer and the musician:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/standard-and-co.jpg?w=1320)

There's more words on the blog, but basically once the standard and musician are done I think that should be plenty for the inaugural unit for the range. Also I jotted down a list on paper for other units and it looks like I'm basically planning at least 10 more unit types - oh my - and a bunch of characters.

Anyways, thanks for looking as always.
Title: Re: 10mm (some more WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on October 03, 2016, 10:16:40 PM
It's us who say thanks :)

Your sculpts are at least as good as GW ones. And i love this arabian army. It's a true great addition ton Wh world and your new units will even increase this interest.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Goblins at last!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: dry_erase on October 03, 2016, 10:49:55 PM
I still think these are great - not much to add to previous frothing posts! The command group do look particularly nice.
Title: Re: 10mm (some more WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on October 04, 2016, 09:28:03 PM
These are looking super impressive...
Title: Re: 10mm (some more WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on October 04, 2016, 11:40:44 PM
The one with the alphanx is superb!

+1
Title: Re: 10mm (some more WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Tiberius on October 05, 2016, 09:07:18 PM
It's us who say thanks :)

Your sculpts are at least as good as GW ones. And i love this arabian army. It's a true great addition ton Wh world and your new units will even increase this interest.

I absolutely agree.  Those sculpts are most impressive.  I can't wait til production begins.  Thank you very much!
Title: Re: 10mm (some more WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on October 08, 2016, 09:00:41 PM
Cheers guys.

 I've pretty much finished the standard bearer and the musician just needs a drumstick and then I think that'll be the spearmen finally done and dusted.... in terms of individual sculpts that works out at 7 different spearmen and 3 command figures. I've also started painting the metal sample cast, so I'm itching to see how he turns out.

I have a question to ask. I've finished two of the half-ogre pit fighters and have started a third, I was wondering how the general feeling is in terms of the number of sculpts for a unit? I'm working on a basis of the unit consisting of 9 miniatures, would 3 fighters, a captain and a standard bearer be enough variety for a unit of 9?

Another question (how demanding am I today?), I've got a couple of armatures wedged into corks and was wondering about the next unit type....... I'm thinking Archers. I guess it would make sense to focus on another standard unit type and then another exotic one, like Dervishes, or Harem Guards, Palace Guards, Kataphrakts (hey, I'm shoehorning in some Persian elements too!), Magic Carpet....... the list of the fancy stuff goes on, and on, and on.

Anyhow, I'd love to get some feedback and opinions so please let me know what sounds sensible or utterly foolish!

P.S. more pics when I get some decent afternoon light and my four year old isn't screaming at me.

Title: Re: 10mm (question time) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on October 10, 2016, 11:41:09 PM
Well in my opinion bowmen or arquebusiers seems the next natural unit.

It seems you really have in mind what you want,
I could share a little dossier with some crazy ideas of what I could see interesting for an araby army (click to enlarge)

- Exhalted saint people: faquirs, serpent tamers, spit firers, ultra thin saints, and exceptional people.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/fakir13_zpsmjsfouys.jpg)    (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/9171105f9e0451e3f06eb7e6b9716aa6_zpsl0m7c6b1.jpg)

- Dervisches
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/68949b77597ffbb8d85bf912680f0873_zpsbdivfrzf.jpg)

- Swordsman and hand weapon soldiers
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/e3740b8ac247260702416b082ae370ef_zpsmfgikono.jpg)   (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/a01a32ec77f1ba63319d3f1e5859c47f_zpsldkj3fql.jpg)

- Harem guard:
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Ottoman1_2_zpscnfo46oa.jpg)

- Thieves band (40 men) with his leader Ali baba
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/a60b623f2329e6d12c111511786dae2c_zpsxcu2mnul.jpg)

- Elephants and huge monstruos mounts.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/tumblr_msevemiPAU1sfw2duo1_500_zps7u6se5yw.png)   (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/1393775702-kushan2ele-o_zpspmtossl5.jpg)

- Assasins hashasins sect and haschis consumers
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/5712299229c7cd6fbb1c6cf62f1971f1_zpsxavetqr8.jpg)   (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/2d_zpsawbncyug.jpg)

- Astrologer and alchemist. They can summon elements (fire, stone, wind, water) so elemental daemons/djins sounds perfect. Also they can read the stars.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/ca7c1702caab364c74c6b08da4544413_zpspbbfbtbm.jpg)

- Desert nomads and camels.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/9516f78d7102e9f3c2dfe452eaf8a2fd_zpsku2zcorw.jpg)

- Pirates of the east sea and barbary pirate. Barbaroja and Simbad journeys
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/3d569248abf74efb4ae14ace7d8d6f21_zpsnge0aphg.jpg)   (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Mola_Pirata_zpslxqwzxdg.jpg)

- Cannons (turks were famous for their cannons... big big cannons). They were obsessed with the thick walls of constantinopla... 700 hundread years willing to torn away those walls.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Cannon_battery_at_the_Siege_of_Esztergom_1543_zpswcpitp3b.jpg)

- Horse archers with Phartian shot.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/66adb7823933764501fa3956c3d17dfd_zpsfdjd57ix.jpg)

- Heavy armoured kataprhakts as sassanid.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Berserk_v32c280p04_05_zps2xrrwav5.png)    (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/20131110185251-c56b2987_zpsbyxdx6s2.jpg)

- Subjugated tribes, people from the distant corner of the vast empire, as indian or kushite black people.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Kalarippayattu_zpscuc1qajs.jpg)

- Archangels and winged soldiers. Despite they were iconoclast they have a strong tradition of angles.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/MohammedgreetingambassadorsfromMedi_zpsciaosouq.jpg)   (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Angels_Ishra_zpsc8izmijc.jpg)

- Djinn or magic spirit of the desert.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/jinns2_2597153k_zpsb59txcez.jpg)

- Giant Worm riders tribe from the sandland.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Eye-Frank_Herbert_zpsrk102snd.jpg)

- Guards of palace: two handed alphanx
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/315_zpsjgvwbdrp.jpeg)

- Sultan and cohort
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Ganishka_Manga_zps6douxvso.jpg)   (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Portrait-of-Suleiman-I_zpsujbbktg9.jpg)    (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Fig_2_Banquet_by_Lala_Mustafa_Pahsa_zpscvqwpr4z.jpg)

- Summoned daemons
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/images_zpsqes1w98c.jpg)    (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/000000000Daka_zps9cpgw8mi.jpg)

- centaurs from the desert
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/oulis2006-agv-0192-0_zpsu3fmz7bw.jpg)    (http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/ad2c28ea7d2e46c0899ed46071382d64_zpso0ftdlhn.jpg)

-Kapiculu or slaves of the gate, the guards of the sultan
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/7ababd95a21f4ca9e68ffd04fa78fc91_zpsdxrvvcyz.jpg)

- A unit of sandorcs. They use to ambush and assault caravans in the desert. Also act as mercernaries for the araby army in times of war. When they are hired in the arbay army they have the stats of Guards.
This units are spearmen + elite (+1atack) + unrealiable (-1comand)
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Orc%20and%20goblin%20WM/sandorcs.jpg)
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Orc%20and%20goblin%20WM/Sandorcgroup-1.jpg)

Unit: Guards from the Harem of the Mighty Sultan Mustafá al Gadafi,
The idea pops remembering the guard of the libian dictator, a bunch of fatal and beautiful women holding maching guns.
Guards from the Harem are highly skilled slaves trainned to make love to the sultan and war to the rest of the men. The leader of this regiment is Dalaila, a empire born from Tilean who was kidnapped by arabs pirates while whe was a children. Now an assasin of exceptional beauty is the most loyal follower of the Sultan.
When things goes bad for Mighty Sltan Mustafá al Gadafi in the battle, he join this unit of camel raiders and launches himself to the heat of the war.
This unit is camel raider + banner of defence
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/harem_zps1b40f75c.jpg)
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/harem2_zps8dd4e549.jpg)
Title: Re: 10mm (question time) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on October 11, 2016, 08:45:36 PM
That's an awesome response Jchaos, have you been planning this for a while? Thanks for putting in so much time into your post.

I really like the idea of having a 40 thieves type unit, they'd be great for an infiltration type unit.

The worm riders would also be good fun, a kind of troop carrying monster!

I've definitely been thinking along the same lines with elemental Djinns. Something I've been toying with is an Arabian style Landship, perhaps using Air Elemental Djinns bound to it to keep it racing around popping little cannons off.

The idea of 'Subject' units has always appealed to me ever since reading Herodotus' account of Xerxes' army and it's exotic units of axe wielding Scythians and White and Red painted Ethopian archers.

I really want to portray this Fantasy Arabian culture as a real economic and cultural powerhouse , as opposed to the somewhat limited scope they are given in the fluff. I picture it as being being a mix of Arab Golden Age, Achaemenid & Sassanid splendour and Ottoman grandure. In my mind the great cities of the merchant princes, viziers and satraps would be an amalgam of Constantinople, Isfahan, old Baghdad and Seville.

Thanks again for sharing all the inspiration, and I'm glad my ideas aren't far from the mark. I really need to look into that Berserk comic, I love the Sultan - battlefield portable peacock throne anyone? I also thought that the half ogres I'm working on would probably fit into the summoned demon role perhaps.

Anyway, almost too many ideas and all my time has been spent teaching life drawing from 9a.m. to 6p.m. Gets a bit of a strain keeping students interested after two solid weeks, but I get some sketching in when doing examples - which I'll be popping up on the blog hopefully tonight.

Cheers again, and as always opinions are welcome.

Title: Re: 10mm (question time) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: industrialtrousers on October 11, 2016, 11:06:23 PM
In answer to your first question regarding the half ogres I think those numbers should be about right. Frankly I like them more than the kickstarter ogre sculpts. If you can alter the weapons on a couple of those poses and whack on a chain mail vest on one and a wolf pelt (jackals pelt?) on another then it can alter the appearance enough to make it look different even if the pose is the same. Hope that makes sense I'm a bit sleepy.

Archers are a std unit so probably the next logical step but the elite guards sound like more fun to me. Rock hard mustachioed veterans. There's a picture somewhere of a regiment of renown , here we go this one (http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr06mullahs/index.htm). Love that eunuch champion.

My 2 cents
Title: Re: 10mm (question time) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on October 13, 2016, 06:21:39 PM
That's an awesome response Jchaos, have you been planning this for a while? Thanks for putting in so much time into your post.

 It was fun. When I painted my historical araby army I spent some time thinking in araby generic fantasy list, so it was already in my head, just some certain image google searches and some copy paste from photobucket.


I really like the idea of having a 40 thieves type unit, they'd be great for an infiltration type unit.

 8)

I've definitely been thinking along the same lines with elemental Djinns. Something I've been toying with is an Arabian style Landship, perhaps using Air Elemental Djinns bound to it to keep it racing around popping little cannons off.

In the new manowar (dreadfleet) there is a boat with some djinn blowing the sail. I think is a cool concept.


I really want to portray this Fantasy Arabian culture as a real economic and cultural powerhouse , as opposed to the somewhat limited scope they are given in the fluff. I picture it as being being a mix of Arab Golden Age, Achaemenid & Sassanid splendour and Ottoman grandure. In my mind the great cities of the merchant princes, viziers and satraps would be an amalgam of Constantinople, Isfahan, old Baghdad and Seville.

Yep indeed. I think fantasy araby is already very influential for renaissance ottoman turk, or to be accurate, IMO fantasy araby army is influenced by the romantic XIX century vision of renaissance ottoman turk (arabian nights / one thousand and one night). And these can fit well with Iranids culture (pre islamic) as you mention above. It is a really interesting army full of details and rich in sources.


Thanks again for sharing all the inspiration, and I'm glad my ideas aren't far from the mark. I really need to look into that Berserk comic, I love the Sultan - battlefield portable peacock throne anyone? I also thought that the half ogres I'm working on would probably fit into the summoned demon role perhaps.

If you want to take a look to berserk comic, here you can find the whole comic
http://www.mangareader.net/berserk/303

About half ogres, yes defenetiviley they are very interesting figures, as half ogres, big bodyguards or summoned demons.

About the sultan portable peacock, have you take a look to Matt's Kublain khan (the winner painting competion in open base )?
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11625.0.html

Anyway, almost too many ideas and all my time has been spent teaching life drawing from 9a.m. to 6p.m. Gets a bit of a strain keeping students interested after two solid weeks, but I get some sketching in when doing examples - which I'll be popping up on the blog hopefully tonight.

Those are only inspiration. A lot of exotic ideas, but as you said somewhere, probably the best seller are archers.  About archers I can imagine different aproaches:

- One aproach is dark age (VII -X century AC) historical aproach: some light mail archer, with helmet, no turban and mail mask. Byzantine influenced. A look similar to katafracti horsemen or sassanid bowmen. And composite bow of course.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/archer_zpsbugno8zd.jpg)

- Other aproach is more "ottoman turk / arabian nights" style, with no armour, turbant and composite bow. Vest, naked chest, Point tip shoes and harem pants. They could be similar to the WM araby stuff.
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/Alfombrasvoladoras.jpg)

- The last approach is the typical archers with long dress, but I think there are enough historical figures that fit that description
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/ALmohadearchers.jpg)

Title: Re: 10mm (question time) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on October 13, 2016, 10:40:36 PM
Those carpets are wonderfull !
Title: Re: 10mm (question time) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on October 19, 2016, 10:08:23 PM
Jchaos: Those Magic carpets look brilliant! and the archers look great too. There are certainly lots of ideas to process and I'm looking forward to the challenge. Let's face it, this isn't going to be a short term project but I hope possible customers won't mind the gradual release of units as it fits into my regular work schedule.

A little update! Standard Bearer finished and the Musician turned out to be quite fun to sculpt! Just need to get a bit of decoration on the front of his turban and he'll be ready.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/stan-and-drum-front.jpg?w=317&h=267&crop=1)

So that means I can lavish attention on the half-ogres. I've added some armour to the first one, finished the second one, and am starting a third:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/ogres1.jpg?w=534&h=292)

Just another five or so of them to sculpt. Hmmmm.

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: 10mm (Update time) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on October 21, 2016, 08:27:02 PM
I finally bit the bullet and decided to paint the test cast of my fantasy 10mm Arabian, and here are the results!

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/painted-arabian-front.jpg?w=660)

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/painted-arabian-rear.jpg?w=660)

I've popped a couple of the Polar Fox Goblins next to him, because I haven't got any singly painted humans knocking about. I'm quite pleased with how he turned out, it's basically the first time I've painted something I've sculpted so it's been quite reassuring that he looks pretty respectable.

Anyways, I thought you'd like to see a painted up sample. Just need to finish the half-ogres then I can start to seriously look at the first products of the range.

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (Update time) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: dry_erase on October 21, 2016, 10:25:21 PM
I finally bit the bullet and decided to paint the test cast of my fantasy 10mm Arabian, and here are the results!

Lovely. They're going to look so good in massed ranks.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted sample) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on October 22, 2016, 09:24:10 AM
wow great work. As I said, I can only see the work of a profesional sculptor there.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted sample) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: fredmans on October 24, 2016, 04:15:13 PM
Fantastic modelling and painting. Loved your google-fu for arabic inspiration!

/Fredmans
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted sample) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on October 24, 2016, 06:01:52 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted sample) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Meraklis on October 25, 2016, 07:24:14 AM
great work! keep it up!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted sample) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Ole on October 25, 2016, 04:27:09 PM
stunning!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted sample) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on October 25, 2016, 07:29:34 PM
Thanks once again for the kind words chaps, more half ogrs on the go and I've started a 10mm Vampire (classic Bela Lugosi style with the slick hair, but will probably give him a weapn of some sort) to act as a boss type baddie for dungeon crawls.

Today though, something a little different. A couple of ruins made from cork with old CDs for the bases. They are inteded to be low level cover and the like, providing 'rooms' in an adventure through an ancient city or whatever. Need some sand and a simple paintjob, but I hope to show some actual finished scenic item soon!

First picture is with  10mm and the second with a 15mm figure, just to show some versatility is scale (one of the great advantages of crumbled ruins!).

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/disk2.jpg?w=660)

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/disk1.jpg?w=660)

Cheers for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (Messin around with scenery again) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on October 25, 2016, 10:55:37 PM
Hey, really nice !!

It will be grass on the floor level or water ?
Title: Re: 10mm (Messin around with scenery again) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on October 26, 2016, 09:59:55 PM
I really wanted to give them a watery base, so it has the appearance of a sunken city or half buried in a bog. But I haven't a clue how to do it well so I've just gone ahead and put sand on the bases which will be muddy ground with grass tufts.

But wow, a dungeoncrawl using sections of corridor and rooms sticking out of water would be awesome. Research time!
Title: Re: 10mm (Messin around with scenery again) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on October 27, 2016, 10:49:34 PM
River trolls will be happy in that dungeon
Title: Re: 10mm (Messin around with scenery again) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: industrialtrousers on November 03, 2016, 12:34:22 PM
Water:
http://www.poundland.co.uk/tommy-walsh-epoxy-resin-glue (http://www.poundland.co.uk/tommy-walsh-epoxy-resin-glue)

I've tried this and it's dried hard. Wasn't quite as fluid as I was expecting but I might have got too much of the hardner in. Beware. It's sticky stuff.

I'm going to use it for a swamp at some stage shortly but I would try to give it a bit of a tint when mixing and if you can paint in (flailing search for correct term) 'depth perspective' - make it look deeper than it is, and then pour some of this over it might well do the trick.

Worth a punt for a pound as far cheaper than water effects. See what you think.
Title: Re: 10mm (Messin around with scenery again) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on November 18, 2016, 08:45:40 PM
Ooo, the epoxy glue looks worth a go. I've seen people use resin in thin layers with different tints to get that depth effect you mention - an artist does some very cool food bowls filled with dozens of layers of resin and paints goldfish on them at different depths.... mad but lovely.

Been super busy at work but have finished another ogre...... pictures soon!
Title: Re: 10mm (Messin around with scenery again) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: industrialtrousers on November 19, 2016, 12:52:47 AM
Dozens of layers sounds like one for the purists. At 10 mm I would expect you can paint brighter gradients and the slightly tint the epoxy. Keep those half ogres coming.
Title: Re: 10mm (Messin around with scenery again) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on November 21, 2016, 11:19:28 PM
Finally, after what seems like ages, anothe Half-Ogre. This time with a massive great branch with some spiky rocks wedged into it. Bit of a blurry pic I'm afraid but I hope you get the idea.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/big-club1.jpg?w=700&h=&crop=1)

More dollies are on corks so I'm hoping to get started on another one soon....... hmmm, what weapon this time?

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (half-ogre with big, spiked club) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on November 22, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
Oh wow, great work, there!
Title: Re: 10mm (half-ogre with big, spiked club) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on November 22, 2016, 09:19:56 PM
Great sculpting. You're very talented.

But i must say i'm not fond of the weapon. Too big "rocks wedged into it" if you want my opinion. But a matter of feeling i suppose. If it pleases you then it's ok of course.
Title: Re: 10mm (half-ogre with big, spiked club) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on November 22, 2016, 10:22:54 PM
Thanks for the comments!

Criticism is always welcome (and encouraged) marell, and to some extent I agree! Maybe they need a bit of shortening or removing altogether, I spent quite some time wondering what to do but kind of just went for it in the end (one of the pitfalls of not working to any kind of plan!). He's got a string of sausages hanging from his belt on the back if that's any consolation though ;)

More on the way soon.
 
Title: Re: 10mm (half-ogre with big, spiked club) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: industrialtrousers on November 23, 2016, 05:34:25 AM
Great stuff. Is it Procreate you use? Do you mix it with green stuff?

I'm a fan of semi civilized folks like half ogres having improvised weapons. As mercenaries they would get paid in food so unless they're a household bodyguard/eunuch slaves they wouldn't have a sword,spear etc. Other weapons ideas could be; a hammer which uses an anvil as head, a cannon with a trunk shoved down it as a club, club using 4 dwarf pick axes rammed onto the end of a pole, a 2hander sword might be big enough, two large Viking axes strapped back to back to make  a double headed axe.
Title: Re: 10mm (10mm Vampire, oh my) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on December 10, 2016, 10:58:42 PM
Thanks industrialtrousers, really good ideas for the scavenged and improvised weapons. Lots of food for thought that's for sure, some of those weapn ideas are pretty exciting and I hope you don't mind if I use a couple of them?

I'm using procreate, which can be a bit annoying since it's not very sticky. I've also heard of mixing with green stuff but I've never had a go since I think I'm still getting used to the medium, however I think I'll be giving it a go at some point perhaps on a bigger model.

In other news, here is a picture of my 10mm Vampire Count WIP which I may have mentioned at some point earlier:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/vampire-count.jpg?w=386&h=481)

Still needs lots of work but I think you get the idea of where he's headed. The main reson for this sculpt was the fact I was looking at the options for a Count Dracula-ish Vampire in 10mm but couldn't find anything that I liked so here we are!

Since I am a massive RPG fan and think that 10mm would be a brilliant scale for it, I'm thinking of possibly doing a selection of heroes and villains which may be the occasional freebie when I finally get around to casting and selling units.

Also bulked out a couple of half-ogre dollies and some more paint on a scenic piece.

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (10mm Vampire, oh my) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on December 11, 2016, 06:47:14 PM
That looks and sounds great, Grumbledook!

I can see a "variety" pack having things that would be useful to different Warmaster armies or dioramas.
Title: Re: 10mm (10mm Vampire, oh my) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: dry_erase on December 11, 2016, 06:53:35 PM
Great vampire - loads of character already, so I can't wait to see the finished figure.

Do you know what I'd like to see in a variety pack? A zoat.  It would make a nifty and unique wizard for Wood Elf, Albion and even Empire armies. I've been wanting to sculpt one myself but I think you'd do a better job! (this is a purely selfish request)
Title: Re: 10mm (10mm Vampire, oh my) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on December 11, 2016, 09:38:58 PM
Hell yes ! A really nicely looking vampire. The head is really not like any human. Clearly a terrifying and unnatural creature. Well done !
Title: Re: 10mm (Finished Vampire) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on January 05, 2017, 08:46:18 PM
Woah! Ok. So another almost a month flashes by. Thanks for the positive responses once again.

I have added the finishing touches to the Vampire Count, and think I managed to get everything I think I wanted onto him to give hime a bit of a retro Dracula vibe.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/count-1.jpg?w=700&h=)

He was fun to sculpt and is only the first of a (hopefully) large range of one off monsters/characters that I want to sculpt, there is so much inspirational stuff in the many RPG bestiaries out there - and I'll definately have to make a Zoatesque tortoise centaur!

Don't worry though, the next aim is to get two more Half Ogres finished (one of whom I'm trying to give the archetypal anchor weapon).

Happy New Year and all that to you all!
Title: Re: 10mm (Finished Vampire) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on January 05, 2017, 10:16:36 PM
Really nice ! I love it !

The cape gesture is ver vampiric style ;)
Title: Re: 10mm (Finished Vampire) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on January 06, 2017, 11:25:18 AM
Excellent, very nice!
Title: Re: 10mm (Finished Vampire) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on January 10, 2017, 11:02:42 PM
Top notch
Title: Re: 10mm (Finished Vampire) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on January 13, 2017, 10:05:29 PM
Cheers folks. There's been a bit more action at Grumble towers, painting action no less! Some ghosts from Magister Militum. These were super simple painting, but it does the job.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/ghosts.jpg)

Here they are rushing some goblins on my first piece of painted scenery.

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/zoiks.jpg)

And for all of you wanting some evidence of some half ogre sculpting:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/ogre-wip.jpg?w=574&h=476)

Thanks for looking, and for the continued support!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Ghosts and some WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on January 13, 2017, 11:46:26 PM
Looking great!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Ghosts and some WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on January 15, 2017, 01:41:55 AM
Very effective painting on the ghost!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Ghosts and some WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on January 15, 2017, 08:13:01 AM
Cheers. As I mentioned they were a really some paint job, quickest thing I've ever done.

Perhaps a ghost army? Like the army of the dead in LOTR? It would also be invincible I guess?  ;)

On a not absurd note, some mixed based of all the random 10mm figures painted up as ghosts would probably work pretty well. Might even get a unit painted after my single one last year!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Ghosts and some WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Rowlybot on January 16, 2017, 02:18:07 PM
Perhaps a ghost army? Like the army of the dead in LOTR? It would also be invincible I guess?  ;)
I did my Tomb Kings as such. I'm not happy with them though. I intend, one day, to strip them all back and do a proper dusty bone scheme instead.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Ghosts and some WIP) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on February 15, 2017, 09:21:03 PM
Finally managed to get a bit more of the old painting done, this time a unit of Halberdiers (from the wonderful Warmonger miniatures). These chaps represent the Tailors' Guild and are fabulously attired in royal purple and grey/black with a saucy red on the bootees and hats - don't worry, both the Cobblers' and Milliners' Guilds will both be recieving their own units of enforcers!

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/halberdiers.jpg?w=660)

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Halberdiers) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: jchaos79 on February 15, 2017, 10:29:02 PM
looking fab!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Halberdiers) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: industrialtrousers on February 15, 2017, 11:11:00 PM
Lovely stuff Grumbles. I think that seals it for me, when I get round to buying the other half of the empire infantry I'll go for Warmonger.
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Halberdiers) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on February 16, 2017, 12:48:04 AM
Fabulous stuff, man!
Title: Re: 10mm (Painted Halberdiers) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Tiberius on February 16, 2017, 01:54:08 AM
Dang, those look great!  I love the colors.  The banner as always looks great.
Title: Re: 10mm (Back to work) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Grumbledook on June 21, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
So, it's been a long time since I've been able to settle my mind a bit and do some proper sculpting. Unfortunately it's been a difficult few months and I've been taking some time to indulge in general painting and fiddling around with some epic bits and bobs.

However, a couple of days ago I came across my long neglected project and thought I'd give it a go:

(https://hobbynotaddiction.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/ogres1.jpg)

And I'm loving it!

It actually got my creative brain firing again and excited, so I'm happy to say that my grand scheme is back up and running.

More soon!
Title: Re: 10mm (Back to work!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: Stormwind on June 21, 2017, 09:47:23 PM
Stunning!
Title: Re: 10mm (Back to work!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: marell le fou on June 21, 2017, 10:11:07 PM
The wait was worth it ! Go on !
Title: Re: 10mm (Back to work!) Fantasy Funfest
Post by: adamsg01 on August 19, 2017, 11:10:13 PM
Those Ogres are coming along nicely there. Hats off to you to be able to work in such a small scale with sculpting materials. The guy on the right is quite a wiry fellow don't you think (Pun intended) - :o)