Pursuit

[honestmistake]

an interesting situation came up in last nights game so i thought i might post it here to see what others felt. During combat 2 cavalry units pushed back a single chariot unit, this took the unit through a narrow gap between friendly units and impassable terrain. 1 enemy pursued into its front as would be expected but the other now needed to move over 120cm to navigate the obstacle and make contact... Now the rules say that distance is not an issue in pursuit so this seems to be within the rules but really 120cm??? Surely this is not the rules intention and some sort of limit (ie: pursuing units max move + the nominal push-back result?) would make sense?

[honestmistake]

slight clarification... the rules say the pursuit distance is "NOT FIXED" it does not say it is unlimited.

[Stormwind]

Could you not say that it is merely one unit pushing through the gap and the other following it?

[captPiett]

Considering that it was a 2-on-1 pursuit, did the second pursuing unit that had to move so far even have the ability to pursue? In most of those types of pursuits I've seen, the second unit has no line of sight (i.e. the first one takes up all the available frontage, esp. after wrap arounds), and has to find another combat or reposition. In other words, it doesn't sound like that situation is possible in the first place. But, there is no limit for pursuit distance.

[jchaos79]

I think the second unit pursuit goes to the short way to the enemy. It is not clearly in the rules, but common sense need to be applied.

The first unit pursuit, the second one can decide if pursuit or not. If he decide to pursuit they goes to the flank not blocked by terrain, but there is a enemy unit, so a accidental combat starts. Remember accidental combat do not earn charge bonus and do not cound 3cm pursuit bonus.

[honestmistake]

Considering that it was a 2-on-1 pursuit, did the second pursuing unit that had to move so far even have the ability to pursue? In most of those types of pursuits I've seen, the second unit has no line of sight (i.e. the first one takes up all the available frontage, esp. after wrap arounds), and has to find another combat or reposition. In other words, it doesn't sound like that situation is possible in the first place. But, there is no limit for pursuit distance.

There is no line of sight requirement for pursuit, only the need for a clear path. The problem with there being no limit to pursuit distance is that the rules say:  "No fixed distance" rather than "No maximum distance".... I don't think that it was written to take account of such situations. My opponent reasoned that the victors were not riding all the way around the mountain but were in fact smashing through the losers line and reforming behind to carry on the fight. I think this explanation has a lot of merit but it still doesn't feel right to me and doesn't explain why the rules require a clear path?

[captPiett]

I know there is no line of sight requirement for pursuit. But if there is no frontage on the pursued stands available for the second pursuer once the first one is in place, it can't pursue (it can't "see" any frontage for base to base contact so has to break off pursuit).