percentage of success. Ranking of armies

[jchaos79]

Thanks SpiritusXmachina,

I take your stats and add my own games, the battle reports post here and the Pugwash Downunder ones.

The statitic is that follows:

Army         SpiritusX  Jchaos   CapPiett  Carrington Pugwash  TotalV  Population   Percentage/%

Chaos            7          7                                                    14         30             47
Bretonninan    13                                                               13         27            48
Empire            6         4                                                     10         26             38
Dwarfs          11         5                                                    16         22             73
High elves       3         5                                         2          10         16             62
Orcs gobl        1                                                                 1         15              7
Undead           1        2                             1           1            5         11            45

                                  Population less than 10 games
Daemon          6                                                                 6          7              86
Vampire          1                       1                                        2          7               29
Dark Elves        3                                                                3          6              50
Lizardman        4                                                                4           5              80
Skaven           4                                                                 4          5              80
Araby            2                                                                   2         3               67


They still being less players and not too much games, but I see that when the number of games (population) with different players arise the percentage goes 40-60 (near 50). Exception is high elves. That means to me that the list are well balance. I never have doubt about the fantastic design of the game list, I love them.

I did not introduce the data of Claus because I do not have the popultaion but for sure his data will arise the deamon and araby, but if I play those armis I will get down the percentage for sure ( ) .

Orc and goblin is very low, because the players (myself) and the one wich spiritusXmachina provide needs to improve the art of waaaagh.

- Do you have the same lecture of the data from the chart?
- Do you have more data?
- Do you think that the unbalance discuss from the skaven list could be spotted in a chart like this? or this mechanism is just a waste of time?

P.D. I do that for fun. I dont want to point that one army is better or worst than another in any moment.

[spiritusXmachina]

Yes, I think that's an interesting, funny idea. And it would be interesting if all armies would tend towards 50% if there are enough players and results included. Unfortunately my statistics lecture are long gone but I would think that if an army lies over 66% or under 33% one could say that it's not perfectly balanced.

By the way the results of Claus's games are already in my chart. At least the ones from the tournament and campaign games. There are around 15 different players that were part of that chart (Guthwine is in there too).

To be honest I think to really be representative only "serious" games should be included. That was the reason I only took results of tournaments and campaign games as everyone tries to win there, major rules interpretations should be correct and there should be a nice mix of different players you meet (I would not even put in results of EuroGTs as those are mainly fun-games).
 
But the idea of gathering international tournament results of the last years seems very interesting to me.
I know that there have been a lot of british tournaments..., I know that there is a vivid Warmaster-community in Poland and in Siberia (greetings to them all) and I know that there were a lot of french and belgian players out there - I do not know if there were tournaments in the Netherlands, but I know that there are "Masters of War" living there  .

In fact there is some kind of project already alive even if it is not especially designed for Warmaster... It's t3: http://www.tabletopturniere.de

It's a site where you can publish coming tournaments and put in the results. Unfortunately I only have access to the german version but there should be a french version somewhere as some french Warmaster tournaments have been published there. Don't know if there is an english version.

I find this site very nice and use it since two years. You can look at the success ratings of different armies there. And it would be very interesting if this site would be accepted as an international center for publishing Warmaster tournaments and results.

I will ask if there is an english version.

Greetings,
Gerald

[jchaos79]

Well I live in Madrid, Spain, and as far as I know warmaster is not very played. I do not frequent tournaments, so I can not provide such data. The idea of taking only "serious games" to statitic seems a good noise-filter.

[jchaos79]

Happy new year to all of you!!!

So I keep recording the statidistic of winning battles reported in this specialist forum and warmasterdk. The draws counts as 2 looses. And here is the stadistic of the year:






I will only comment the 10 or more games of population section (the yellow one):

There are 3 groups of success with the armies.

-The succesfull ones (around 60%): Dwarfs, high elves and dark elves.  For my surprise the dwarves are very very succesful army and it is curiuos that is the one that not have cavalry

- The even ones (around 40-50%): Skaven, undead, bretonian, empire. It seems empire has enter this middle group. Maybe skaven has little population of games to be sure in what group depends.

- The less succesfull ones (around 25-30%): Orcs & Goblins, Chaos. For my surprise Chaos still being in this group, as many people consider this army a great challenge.


This kind of stadistic is only made for fun but could be interesting when preparing a campaing to make balance teams of armies.

The headers of the columns are the names of the players who won battles. If the battle is reported in the forum and do not tell who is the opponent, then the victory goes for the guy who post the battle. Sorry if the name is not complete, but if someone of you had curiosity could ask and I will give the complete player nickname.

Enjoy

[Dreadaxe]

In fact there is some kind of project already alive even if it is not especially designed for Warmaster... It's t3: http://www.tabletopturniere.de

It's a site where you can publish coming tournaments and put in the results. Unfortunately I only have access to the german version but there should be a french version somewhere as some french Warmaster tournaments have been published there. Don't know if there is an english version.

I find this site very nice and use it since two years. You can look at the success ratings of different armies there. And it would be very interesting if this site would be accepted as an international center for publishing Warmaster tournaments and results.

I will ask if there is an english version.

Greetings,
Gerald

T³ is open to UK moderator candidate.

http://www.tabletoptournaments.net/game/Warmaster

[azrael71]

T³ is open to UK moderator candidate.

Does this mean you are looking for one?

[spiritusXmachina]

Yes, it does.

[azrael71]

PM me with what is involved please.