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Offline jchaos79

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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2012, 10:20:44 AM »
They look great. I really like the basing material.

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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2012, 11:19:03 AM »
Your wash work is fab, mate.
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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2012, 08:20:22 PM »
Top notch painting! A pleasure to look at.
Warmaster:
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- Highelf WIP

Epic:
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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2012, 01:20:44 AM »
Your wash work is fab, mate.

Actually back home my nickname was "Brown Wash". Or just, "wash". Thanks a lot guys, the only reason I started the blog was for the feedback and you guys are making me feel super welcome here on this forum. Thanks for that!
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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 10:57:25 AM »
I've got to ask, do you undercoat in white to make better use of washes?  I've been undercoating in black just because there are SO MANY recesses and niggly bits in the Warmaster minis.
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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2012, 06:41:43 PM »
Stormwind: I have not used anything but white primer in probably 10 years. This is what I always say to people who ask...

1.) You start with black primer as a beginner, so that you already have your contrast built in off the get go. This makes for a darker miniature, but much easier to shade.

2.) Once you're comfortable and feel like you need a little more control over the shadows you go with gray primer. This is a good middle-of-the-line tone that still gets dark in the crevices, but a dark that isn't so overpoweringly dark.

3.) After you've decided that black and gray still don't give you the control you need you move to white primer. White primer is the hardest to deal with because you have NO shadows or contrast, this all must be done by you, the painter. Some consider black-lining, I go the wash route and then black-line if I need to really darken an area.

As far as my washes... invariably I will throw a black wash on there. So take the Liche Priest's energy vortex... I painted it green to start, then washed it black to get depth and contrast. Then I built back up using the same colors I started with all the way up to an off-white. That's how I do my washes... lay it down thick, but make sure it doesn't pool, then build back up. It's an easy way to shade but it requires a bit of finesse that just takes good honest practice.

Sound good?
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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2012, 07:27:50 PM »
Thanks man, I feel like less of a noob now.  I've tried undercoating white my Epic eldar and Space Wolves but found the amount of "bits I missed" intolerable on the marines, made me throw down my tools in frustration.  I tried some grey on my Warhammer elves, and now black on my Warmaster High Elves.

Mixing that with the new Imperial primer to fill in the gaps and I feel I am sloooowly getting the hang of things!
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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2012, 07:56:25 PM »
I always prime in black, and is good for me  :D

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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2012, 08:40:27 PM »
JChaos... I didn't mean to offend if I did. Black is great! Don't get me wrong. If you want dark figures, or stark contrast then it's way better than white in my opinion.

I was merely suggesting that white I believe is sometimes the hardest to paint with on account of the fact that you get NO contrast to start, you have to be the one to create the contrast. I believe white to give a painter more control than black. You don't necessarily want black in the crevices... I mean, sometimes you want a brown or a blue or a green.... so that being said, the white allows whatever shading you want to have happen to happen, versus the black that sort of swallows up a lot of color.

Hope that helps!

Stormwind... you're not a noob, white's just hard to work with, especially with small scale.
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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2012, 09:31:31 PM »
No offense at all, just an opinion, and yes white is hard. I tried some units in white prime in 10mm and gives me a lot of work, and the result was not what I expected, not for using white ...but because I am not trainned enough to control this type of painting.

Anyway, the point is that your figures are superb painted! good work  ;)

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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2012, 04:09:57 AM »
Thanks a lot JChaos... really putting a lot of time into these guys and a lot of heart, though the dead have no souls  ;)

But if they did, this is what they'd look like  8)

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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2012, 10:01:35 AM »
Again, looking great - the hero on the left stands out.  And the basing is nice and muted... Apart from the piles of skulls. =D  Love the cavalry armour.
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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2012, 03:37:02 PM »
Consitantly awesome!
Warmaster:
- Bretonia
- Dwarves
- Highelf WIP

Epic:
-Imperial Guard
-Necrons
-Space Marines WIP

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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2012, 06:56:52 PM »
Your shading skills are unbelievable!

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Re: [EA][WM] The Iron Painter's Blog
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2012, 04:07:01 AM »
Thank you all for the kind words, you're what motivate me to paint! Here's some new work, moving right along with my army, unit by unit. More on the blog:

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