alternative manufacturers of miniatures for WM

[jchaos79]

Coppelstone orcs are really nice too. Also have a range of half-orcs.

There are picture of both of them in the paint and modelling galleies

[Stomm]

I should also point out that the more money spent on GW alternatives instead of the genuine article, the more likely a whole range is to get dropped due to poor sales. At least you would think so anyway...

[eastern barbarian]

they are dropping it anyway- I see no point in supporting GW after what they have done with specialist games.

[azrael71]

I should also point out that the more money spent on GW alternatives instead of the genuine article, the more likely a whole range is to get dropped due to poor sales. At least you would think so anyway...

Well if they had released the beastmen that were allegedly sculpted I would have bought GW and bought a 4k army off of them.
But they didn't, same goes for a lot of the alt/trial armies I own.
Then they stopped production of the metal models from BOTFA that a lot of people used for these alt armies.

This argument has raged for years about supporting SG but GW don't do a lot to help out, do they?
Even the online article repository diasappeared

There was mention a while ago about alt/rare stuff being released on a pre-order based model but that never came about.

I would love to buy a new army and if the rumour is true I will be shelving out on a bret and araby one sooner than I had planned
But when I got into the game kislev was discontinued, I kicked myself for not buying a 2k force, got to say only ever played kislev once and I know I am not missing out on yet another human army.

As for the 'rumour' about SG getting shelved, I have heard that before and then they released the Araby army
Until it is officially announced I will take all rumours with a pinch of salt.

[jchaos79]

I have heard that kallistra are taller than 10mm. Also I have heard from Azrael that kallistra towered GW.

I have found a pic from a blog and I attach to you, because if all kalistra range are like this I will drop it from my list of manufactureres.
Does anybody knows if all the figures from kallistra has the same proportions?

I could imagine that kallistra use the pendraken figures (based in strips) and the new figures/range are the taller ones. Am I right? or all kallistra figures are nearly 13-16 mm?


The first pic is kallistra / pendraken historical

The second pic (from left to right) --> pendraken fantasy/ kallistra / pendraken historical / 15mm alternative games

The pics are not mine so I put the source  (give to Caesar what is from Caesar) http://aportodos.mforos.com/1354550/7782193-10mm-pendraken-vs-kallistra/

[Lex]

Is a lot of Kalistra not officialy tagged as 15 mil ??

[jchaos79]

Is a lot of Kalistra not officialy tagged as 15 mil ??

I don't know, in his official site it is very clear that are 10mm. I have search through forums/pages and I could not get any clear idea... I see pics that are 10-12mm clearly (fantasy) but others 13-15mm, but well all the measures are made with my eyes and in pics... so be carefull with that information. I attach another pic from a fantastic blog
http://pokeofpike.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/but-my-lord-we-shall-need-a-great-many-wee-little-men/

If someone have first hand information, about which sets are bigger than other will be high appreciate

[Carrington]

scale creep is a way of life.  Kallistra calls them "big 10/12mm" miniatures.

Of course GW's '10mm' miniatures are fairly chunky as well -- as I found out when I got a bunch of Pendraken polish winged lancers.

(Now why would I be buying winged lancers?)

[jchaos79]

thats the thing- I need them to look more "gobliny". Any other manufacturers that do goblin models?

I could only find GFI orcs. I do not have them but could make good goblins for my taste. I give you a link of comparison:

http://15mmfantasy.tripod.com/gfi.html

[eastern barbarian]

i personally got kallistra rock lobbers, command group and some trolls. Trolls are about same size, command group orcs- some of them are bigger but then nothing better for a general than nasty, massive Orc character. Lots of those orcs from command group such as musicians, standard bearers etc were just right size, so i guess it depends on particular model.

[eastern barbarian]

GFI orcs and goblins look quite good, they could be a solution to my problems, with a difference is that I have to order them from US so I guess I will just keep hunting on eBay for more gobbos.

[eastern barbarian]

just got few more samples from Pendraken- their ratmen look very much like skaven but are size of other 10mm models so this is only problem- i am sure though many ppl will not mind that and of course bigger skaven make excellent stormvermin for those that do mind. They do have a guy looking like an assassin as well
Boar Riders- looks very big, more like 15 mm than 10 mm but I think they would look great as commanders of boar units- bigger ork, bigger boar= big boss
Their goblisn look exactly like orcs, good size for them as well, just simply less armoured,  no helmets etc.

[jchaos79]

Also pendraken gyrocpter (I think gyrobomber?) has a dwarf pilot of 15mm, unacceptable for me. I will swap it and make a convertion of the pilot with other 1omm figure.

[jchaos79]

How about kislev cavlary proxies with this mongols?

http://www.tridentebologna.it/dettagli_E.php?id=TB4172

sorry I mean this for the kislevites archers (original blister not the tribe horsemen)

http://www.tridentebologna.it/dettagli_E.php?id=TB4175

I think they sculpted the horse as "steppe ponnies" so is why the horse is stange at first sight

[yamaneko]

I've got some new pics on my site of Magister Militum Mongols, orcs, and ashigaru.  I hope they prove useful for some of you.

I have an order from Kallistra (Mongols and Vikings) scheduled to arrive soon, and hope to upload more comparison pictures sometime next weekend.