[BFG] OSJC latchford's bfg stuff

[osjclatchford]

Thanks lordB, took a hell of a lot of cleanup...

Well I had a final rummage and found a clean cruiser chassis  that I'd got in a joblot I had stashed for future use then stupidly forgot about... So THAT will be the last of battlefleet Armageddon stuff I think... But never say never eh? 

As for making stuff what we ALL need is a good proxy for a standard imperial cruiser chassis... The sprues just don't exist anymore and although there is mangozac/Armand's Zeus cruiser, that's not all that accessable to everyone as he's much more low key with his sales nowadays. The helion cruisers are too stylistically different and anything from shapeways is not worth the cost...  So where else to get imperial cruisers..?

I mean 3rd party weapons and prows are quite grabbable and very reasonably priced but cruisers are another deal...

All the stuff you've made has been great quality and so reasonable price wise I'm surprised you don't sell out faster!

[horizon]

Vanguard miniatures will bring the Zeus line back somewhere this year.. Without Corona it might had have happened already.

[osjclatchford]

Hot damn! That's music to my ears... With a Zeus and a bunch of different weapons and prows you can do quite a lot to be honest...

Am I to assume that's the Zeus cruiser and light cruisers too?

[Malika]

It's basically the entire line of the old Resin Addict ships, so the Zeus ships, prows, broadsides, etc.

[osjclatchford]

Drool!  Seriously though. Would still be nice to see an alternative but fairly faithful alternative to a plastic cruiser hull... So if you are serious lord b...


Oh yeah, was gonna ask you guys, where's the javelins in bfg scale gone from the vanguard site? They're not in the ordnance section nor elsewhere... Curious... I loved those little fighter models...

[osjclatchford]

so:
St. Anger is reborn. the original st anger was a dauntless conversion i did in the early days of bfg, it had a powerfist grafted to its prow... lets just say it was not expertly done...


this lunar class st. anger is clearly based on a plastic cruiser,  the prow is from a zeus light cruiser with a GK termie fist grafted into the slot wehre the eagle head was.
 I had no enginebay/sidefin parts so did similar to what I did on my old dominator conversion, simply used tubing to continue the engines. in this case the 'tubing' either side was part of one of these:

the defense plates are off of the panthera conversion kit and are mounted on some small sprue wedges.
where the model was now lacking width, the use of the chaos bridge adds height in similar proportion.

also did some more work on the prows of the light cruisers and took the opportunity to take some better shots of them:

[horizon]

The light cruisers are fun. Were did you get them from? They could rightly fit into the Zeus line.

[Malika]

Oh yeah, was gonna ask you guys, where's the javelins in bfg scale gone from the vanguard site? They're not in the ordnance section nor elsewhere... Curious... I loved those little fighter models...

I know... I've submitted updated versions of those, they even got printed. Curious why they still aren't in production yet.

To give you an idea, see attachment.

[osjclatchford]

Oh yeah, was gonna ask you guys, where's the javelins in bfg scale gone from the vanguard site? They're not in the ordnance section nor elsewhere... Curious... I loved those little fighter models...

I know... I've submitted updated versions of those, they even got printed. Curious why they still aren't in production yet.

To give you an idea, see attachment.

yeah saw the stormbird(?) proxies on there! glad to know the javelins are likely not gone forever then!
have I got that right? is stormbird the right proxy? if so that should make them a little larger than a thunderhawk right?

The light cruisers are fun. Were did you get them from? They could rightly fit into the Zeus line.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/52Z9R7F2H/razor-class-cruiser-hull?optionId=63886831&li=shops

but as I said, the ones I got were recasts from ebay. probably done on the naughty without admgr's permission but at a third of the price, I was not going to argue, because I'm selfish like that when it comes to ships! put it this way, cant find em on ebay now so i guess he's been bubbled... which is only right really...
however for all I know the seller on ebay was actually the same designer. just recasted his prints to have another platform to sell them other than shapeways taking all the proffit? its a morally reprehesible way of doing it, sign up to shapeways, get them to host your design, order one and recast it to make direct sales whilst shapeways does all the printing work for no extra charge... i doubt thats the case though as he'd have been kicked off of shapeways if he did that. surely...

[Ragsta]

The latest 3 ships look excellent and a great kitbashing of parts on the St Anger. There's something about Imperial ships (and Chaos yins to a lesser degree) that make using various parts really easy and fun.
I wish the Voss light cruisers had been given a bit more oomph back in the day - yours look excellent but the slab like hull plates are a bit meh to me. Just me though, and if I'm not careful I'll have to put my money where my mouth is!!

So... If you're slowly wrapping up your fleets can we get some group shots?! 

[Malika]

yeah saw the stormbird(?) proxies on there! glad to know the javelins are likely not gone forever then!
have I got that right? is stormbird the right proxy? if so that should make them a little larger than a thunderhawk right?

That model in the middle is the Eagle Dropship, many have used it as a Thunderhawk proxy. We haven't done a Stormbird proxy (yet).

[Lord Borak]

 

As for making stuff what we ALL need is a good proxy for a standard imperial cruiser chassis... The sprues just don't exist anymore and although there is mangozac/Armand's Zeus cruiser, that's not all that accessable to everyone as he's much more low key with his sales nowadays. The helion cruisers are too stylistically different and anything from shapeways is not worth the cost...  So where else to get imperial cruisers..?

I mean 3rd party weapons and prows are quite grabbable and very reasonably priced but cruisers are another deal...

All the stuff you've made has been great quality and so reasonable price wise I'm surprised you don't sell out faster!

Well, I was thinking of doing my Grand cruiser at some point in the near future but it would be more of a pocket battleship or a larger cruiser in design rather than the design GW has. The weapons (rules) seem to fit three weapon 'ports' rather than the 4 GW gave it. Which means the design will be more like a Battleship with 3 port alongside rather than two up and two down.

A cruiser would be cool but there are already the Helios ships which are amazing and I wouldn't like to step on their toes as I love those ships (but yet have to buy some!  ).

Weapons though isn't a bad idea. It wouldn't take me long to knock some up and get them sent off to the casters. Any particular designs you like the look of?

Great conversions and paint jobs all round (as usual!) Love the prow fist/ram on the Battlecruiser

[osjclatchford]

@ragsta, thanks and re. the light cruisers, no you are right, the plates are purest derp. I just wanted these as is as part of history in my collection. (in point of fact I only ordered one with the intent to replace the original excelsior I did but the guy sent me two anyway, which was nice...)
also you know what, with hearing that the zeus line is on the way you can forget my "im done" crap... were never done with this hobby are we, 20 years on and not done so..? yeah...

@malika, really, a thunderhawk... at 14mm? thats a seriously big-assed TH...

@lordborak , a decent grand cruiser on a less derpy take than the gw crossbreed monstrosities (of which I'm STILL desperate to own just one for the sake of my collection) would be nice its true.
I still stand by what I said about cruiser chassis. as good as the helios gear is, its very design specific.
an alternative design could definitely exist without @treading on toes' or thunder stealing for sure...
however, if the resin addict zeus light cruiser and full zeus cruiser are coming to vanguard you could say that kinda has that covered I guess... so yeah I dunno. a Gothic/classic-style chassis would still be recieved well...

as for weapons, Id say that a plasma-specific battery would look all kinds of cool. it could be used as generic (rules wise) or used to represent the mixed plasma and standard batteries that a tyrant-class is loaded out with.(the 45cm range that operate alongside the 30cm range battery in the rules) I know most people just use four matching batteries but two different types to actually specifically represent to 30cm and the 45cm guns would be interesting and visually awesome...


Also, it seems I'm STILL not done entirely... (when will Learn to not say things like that anyway?)

my  previous attempt to paint up one of malika/vanguard's panthera cruisers as an astartes vessel led to another disastrous paintjob that always occurs whenever I try to paint spacemarine ships for bfg that aren't inquisition based. the blood angel one that sits somewhere in an above post was the third attempt at that model. and I'm still not 100% satisfied with it tbh.
as such I have recently resigned myself to never attempt to paint spacemarines in bfg again.

However I still had a second of those pantheras waiting on paint, so I had a good think.
I personally dont like the panthera prow. it looks like a hybrid between tau and ad-mech to me, as such I cant unsee it thus and for me it had to go. so out with the exacto-saw.
so what to do with her? astartes? no chance! light cruiser? too small inquisition? been there done that
a flitter through both my rulebooks and my bitzbox found the perfect answer. defense monitor!

I have never liked either the gw nor the fw versions to represent a defense monitor ship. the gw one has a nice prow (clearly based on a cut down cruiser prow) but the 'ship' itself is clearly just two lance battery sections slapped together. the fw one? urgh! wtf!? whats with that hideous prow? dont get me started... LOL
so as you can see I had a gw def-mon  prow knocking about and donated it to this panthera.
addition of the aerial bits from an imperial frigate and the plastic lance turrets for an even more defined gw imperial look and this new defense monitor the "spitehawk" was born.
I stuck with the armageddon colourscheme as I like painting it and this way, she'll match the fleet and stations I have too.

oh and heres a pre-paint shot:

I know I dont usually but I took this in a fit of paranoid panic that I'd bugger it up painting it yet again. LOL

[Lord Borak]

Yup, that's cool. I was pondering upon the same thing myself when I got those ships. I also thought about using the Marine strike cruiser front launch bay bit as the prow for some Marine/Inquisition strike cruisers. Alas, that idea went on the back burner as I was distracted by other things!

Weapon batteries are certainly a thing people need in some abundance. It shouldn't be that much of a problem to make some of these. If I get a free evening this week I'll see what I can come up with. Seeing these ships has started to rekindle the plasticard bug in me again

[horizon]

Lol on those Grand Cruiser remarks. Though I do regret not having one in my collection.

As for cruiser hulls : I really want another AdMech cruiser. But the thingiverse and/or shapeways one just don't do it. There is something wrong with the prows and the hulls aren't as the original ones.
In this case the Zeus line would come close but then I still need a prow.
Vanguard is doing mini-AdMech prows, mayhaps a bigger on will arive one day.  @Malika?

Otherwise I also still need an Eldar craftworld eldar dragonship. Weapon bits I have. For that one ambitious painting project in the back of my head...

As for painting Space Marines: my Novamarines went pretty well. Plus I've seen some other good chapters around as well. Ultramarines may be the easiest due the blue colours.

The defence monitor looks neat.

I totally forgot the FW variant, why did you bring it back?