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Battlefleet Gothic => [BFG] GothiComp => GothiComp Archive => Topic started by: horizon on July 31, 2011, 06:50:33 AM
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Hi,
Due the re-imagining of Cybershadow on 'his' Tactical Command the decision has been made to move the Battlefleet Gothic content over to this forum. TacCom itself only had little traffic opposed to this forum where traffic is pretty good for the game of Battlefleet Gothic.
The first step was to start up the GothiComp at the SG forum. So all and everything will be hosted from this forum. So, soon, you can finally vote in the 2011 competition on this very forum.
This thread is for general discussion, favourably not on the 2011 entries as long as voting goes on.
Feel free to ask questions, post ideas and what else springs to mind.
Enjoy!
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Will the viewing and voting for this years gothcomp be held on this site and forum? and how soon will the galleries be open for voting?
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Yes, polls here. When.... soon.
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Need...
polls....
:o :o :o
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Cybershadow is working on the gallery.
Be patient..
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I am was just fun :-D No stress!
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Just finished voting. Not easy, some nice work there!
Here's my thoughts for the NEXT Gothicomp:
It would seem the organizers want the entries to be anonymous, which I agree is a good idea to prevent vote soliciting. For the same reason, they would rather not have us post other pictures of the entries, as then the work is no longer anonymous. However, one of the best parts of gothicomp is to expose new people to the hobby. And to me, having more BFG threads, photos, etc... = more buzz and exposure. I myself only got into BFG because of gothicomp. In fact, I have never played a game :o (I want to , but that's another story), I got my first BFG ships when I saw how cool they looked on the BFG threads at epic40k.co.uk (back in the day).
My suggestion would be to allow participants to submit up to 3 (or any given number) photos per entry. The first would be the standard photo we see on the galleries. The other photos would be placed anonymously into the "discussion" thread. We could also then "ban" composite images (an image where more than one view is seen), as there would be no need. Also, we could send in these other pics as wip photos.
Obviously, this would create more work for the moderators, and I certainly would understand if this is a dealbreaker. Alternatively, is there a way to post anonymously?
What do you think?
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I get what you're saying, but then we're voting based on two sources of information in different places... seems odd.
I think one could just post WIP shots after the voting's over. If the mods are willing to do a little bit more work they could add forum links to the gallery afterwards. After all, it's rare for a new guy to stumble across the Gothicomp gallery during voting.
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After all, it's rare for a new guy to stumble across the Gothicomp gallery during voting.
How do you mean?
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Good question... I'm not sure what the hell kind of logic I was trying to use. Never mind!
But I'll stick to my belief that veteran forumgoers are more likely to display favouritism in their voting than new members.
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The idea of 2 votes per category has some merit
A 1st n 2nd
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removed.
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Not fond of discussing specific entries in here.
Thanks. :)
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oh sry, i didnt even mention what picture im talking about. I thought thats ok.
And i guess if everyone who read my comment knows what picture im talking about it doesnt matter anymore what i was saying.
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First post on this forum so hi to all :P
Have for the first time voted in this comp. and found it hard to decide ast times !!! I did not think it would be that tough to make a choice !
But all in all some very good work to look at and admire, realy puts me to shame.
Ant...
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Let me just say that this was a very bad year. In that it was terribly difficult for me to vote because there was some real talent in multiple entries.
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Let me just say that this was a very bad year. In that it was terribly difficult for me to vote because there was some real talent in multiple entries.
This is my first time voting but I agree with you. I found it difficult to make choices in more than one catagory, there is some real talent out there.
I am a very jealous boy/ man/ person...
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When I encounter the level of skill we have seen, I look for a couple different things to help me choose.. it was HARD this year.
For the single ship, I needed to be wowed by both conversion talent and paint job. By strictest definition, I rank any recognizable 40k bit poorly. An excellent example of this is tau fleet 2. Do not get me wrong, it was a gorgeous job! However, I could identify every bit used, and in the entire fleet, he only had 2 legit bfg minis. If he had all of his ships legit bfg, he would of had my vote hands down.
It was so hard to pick between the gorgeous eldar battleship and the jogamandir hiveship. Both were amazing conversions with stunning paint jobs... easily equal in all of my required feilds... so I had to do the horrible thing and actually vote on wyswyg. Eldar ships do not have port or starboard weapons... it makes me feel horrible but at that level I had to pick something to break the tie..
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Eldar ships do not have port or starboard weapons... it makes me feel horrible but at that level I had to pick something to break the tie..
Not to make you feel bad but the old Eldar Spacefleet models had port/starboard build weapons. ;)
By the way, I really appreciate of people give reasonings to a vote. And I should've allowed it from the start on.
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While I agree that providing reasons for how we voted is a good thing I'm a bit curious about Zelniks reasoning process.
I mean there is absolutely nothing wrong with how you choose your personal favourite, but I thought the voting was only regarding painting because conversions is to be judged by a jury of some sorts?
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By the way, I really appreciate of people give reasonings to a vote. And I should've allowed it from the start on.
Well in that case.... as we are "required" to vote on paint jobs, I voted on the Eldar escorts. Reason:
it is not "hard" to make a huge and extremly detailed battleship look good, but it takes true dedication to apply that level of detail on "mere" escorts!!
JMHO of course... 8)
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The jogamandir did not look like a model
Which was what impressed me
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How do you mean: "did not look like a model" ?
@ Aerospike, you are correct in the way that people vote for painting and judges for conversions.
However in case of tie when deciding to vote it is the unconciousness that will apply the 'rule of cool' when determining the final vote. In some cases the rule of cool wins anyway. See the problems escorts face in this competition. Lex his thinking in this is not what the common vote will be I think.
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Maybe I just misinterpreted what Zelnik wrote. He was talking so much about recognizable 40K bits, and non wysiwyg stuff, that I forgot that he said at the beginning that it was really hard for him and he had to look for other stuff besides the painting alone as a tie breaker. Maybe it is also because my personal approach was different and I was looking for little details that really pop (like that small little nebulae/galaxy on the base of the leftmost of the Eldar escorts), or the overall appearance, or how much effort was put into the base, or especially: how far above what I could achieve is it?
I have to agree that it is a lot harder to make escorts look really good, but in addition it is also difficult to properly present a squadron of escorts in a single picture, essentially forcing you to combine shots from multiple angles to really make their details visible.
For me that was part of the reason why I voted for the Eldar escorts in the tiebreaker because I just could not believe how good those tiny models looked and I would still prefer them to the cruiser of the same fleet that also made it to the finals, despite having the same paint job.
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Did not look like a model as to it's life like appearance
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According to my wife the Jorgamundr should be disqualified as it is an alien, not a space"ship".
lol
hahahahaha.
j/k
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Yes it easier to make a battleship look impressive than a escort but to some degree thats what the competition is about. Everyone can chose the ship he want to paint and on a big ship there is simply more space for awesome painting.
I voted for the eldar battleship. I simply think its the best paintjob, i like the color scheme, the freehands are impressive, the details are great, so almost everything that has to do with painting it is there and is good.
The Tyranid hive is painted awesome as well but it just doesnt add the extra of freehands. Ok, the base is very nice as well, but i don't like such heavily painted bases so much as they almost never fit to the gaming table.
Talking about the base what i didnt notice that the base of the eldar has color spots on its stem that could be counted as "not finished" and thus give a small bonus to the hive ship. But in the end that i didnt notice it at all until now, tells me that the rest simply "shines too bright" to take the base into account.
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[...] that the rest simply "shines too bright" to take the base into account.
That pretty much sums it up for me as well regarding the ship voting. For me it was down to the Tau Explorer, the Tears of Wisdom and the already mentioned Eldar Escorts, but in the end I just could not keep my eyes off that Eldar Battleship. In my opinion it is simply stunning.
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jogamandir ; Jorgamundr ; Jogimandar ; Radomgandur ; Dumagandor ; ... => Jormugandr :)
According to my wife the Jorgamundr should be disqualified as it is an alien, not a space"ship".
Have you told her there is alien in it too? So it is an alive space ship carrying little aliens and .... no, nevermind.
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I voted for the Eldar battleship. I spent some time studying both it and Jormugandr before reaching that conclusion. The eldar ship showed much greater technical skill in freehand and in composition although there were some flaws. I found that the two tone color scheme was well suited to breaking out areas and helping to define the form.
The hive ship initially gave me a very good impression and felt extremely "realistic" in regard to the materiality of the subject with extremely fine detail work. However after studying it I concluded that much of the effect came from the lighting in the photograph and detail on the model itself rather than the painting technique. The base does serve to show ability with freehand, but I feel that is secondary to the model rather than integrated into the composition. Outside of the lighting in the photograph, there just wasn't enough there to warrant a vote over the Eldar ship.
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Talking about the base what i didnt notice that the base of the eldar has color spots on its stem that could be counted as "not finished" and thus give a small bonus to the hive ship. But in the end that i didnt notice it at all until now, tells me that the rest simply "shines too bright" to take the base into account.
Actually, its a reflection from the photography. I couldn't figure out how it got there, so I re-took the photo. But, I felt the intial one (as posted in the gothicomp) showed the model better.
Speaking of photos, I've got some more to show some of the other details/goodies/etc... in this one, but don't want to upload them until gothicomp is over.
Glad you liked it :)
... it makes me feel horrible but at that level I had to pick something to break the tie..
No worries Zelnik. Voting was not easy this year (actually, has it ever been easy?). The gun decks were more of an artistic choice rather than trying to make a gaming ship. I'm glad you were able to pick them out though, they were pretty hard to make ;)
Cheers,
CF
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:( jogamandir ; Jorgamundr ; Jogimandar ; Radomgandur ; Dumagandor ; ... => Jormugandr :)
According to my wife the Jorgamundr should be disqualified as it is an alien, not a space"ship".
Have you told her there is alien in it too? So it is an alive space ship carrying little aliens and .... no, nevermind.
Ah sorry about the name.
For the rest: heh.
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This is how I go about voting:
As it should be, conversions or using non-BFG models, mean nothing to me. I only care about the paint on the model.
That being said, I'm looking for a combination of skill level used, and the amount of detail put into the model. The best painters, in my opinion, can pick up almost every detail that is on the model. For example, the 1A entry "Imperial Fist Strike Cruiser" and the BB of the same paint scheme, are solidly done paint jobs. I would game against them any day. However, in a painting competition, there are too many details on the model the painter simply did not find a way to bring out. By the same comparison in the same round, 1E "Bakunin Repulsive", the painter was able to highlight every beam on the model. On top of that, he found a way to paint multiple shades of color inside the tiny spots between the beams, and still highlight the beam.
After that, I look at skill. Did the painter use any neat effects? The obvious one for this example is the Tau fleet AC. I look at that, and I have to ask myself one question: How did he do that?
I honestly don't give a lot of credence to the base job unless it's super fancy. I know some people like keeping them clear, painting them black, others with stars, and others go all out. So for me, I give a few bonus points for doing a good base job, but I never take any points away when making a decision.
My list of honorable mentions that I want to congratulate: 3E "Acheron Heavy Cruiser", CD "Fleet Neaxe", and DB "Tau Fleet". I thought these were ones that were just some unreal paint schemes to them.
-Zhukov
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With fleet pictures the hardest thing to pull of is a good picture with good composition and keeping everything crisp. While they don't influence voting a good picture can bring forward a good paintjob.
A bad picture can obscure a bad paintjob, haha.
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@Zhukov
I disagree with you on the level of detail on the Imperial fists ships. There is a ton of detail there, including some very good shading and battle damage. I was surprised they didn't do better than they did. They were certainly my 1st choice for fleet.
As for the Jormugandr vs Eldar BB thing, I went for Jormugandr. The paint job was superb and it made the ship look very realistic. The detail on the base was fantastic and didn't detract from the model (and since it's a base you could replace it with a blank one for gaming if you really wanted). So this ship had it all, it demonstrated great technical ability, looked striking and realistic. The Eldar ship on the other hand used a blue and brown colour scheme, which is fine for providing great contrast but it's still blue and brown. I mean c'mon. Ich. Also, the painted faces showed a lot of skill, but I really didn't like them. Who wants some pictures of old men all over their ship? Now, if they'd been Dragons or Eagles or Griffons or some such, sure.
So both ships demonstrated great expertise and were quite striking, but the Eldar ship had blue/brown and some peados painted on it. Therefore Jormugandr won for me.
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Sig, I went ahead and edited one word. Just because I can in this forum.
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@Sig
The imperial fists simply were too less of a fleet to me... two ships simply look strage in a fleet category and obviously the fleet entries have a harder time showing details when having more ships.
@all
In my opinion the fleet category has a part in it that the ship category doesnt have. Its the question if the color scheme looks good on the battlefleet with several models. To me most single color fleets look rather boring if you see 10 ships from relatively far ahead.
That is why the tau fleet in the final is my absolute favorite, all other final entries might be painted well but they arent especially interesting to look at. The 2nd best in this aspect is the imperial fleet in the final because it has the red "eye-catcher" fronts.
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The imperial fist ships, as well as the blackstone were all handsome
Agree that the paint job on the void stalker was amazing detailing works
I didn't think it was realistic for a battleship in space though
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The harder it is to choose from the entries, the better the contest has become ;)
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It has certainly urged me to improve my painting quality...
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The imperial fist ships, as well as the blackstone were all handsome
Agree that the paint job on the void stalker was amazing detailing works
I didn't think it was realistic for a battleship in space though
See that's what I saw. They were really good, but they weren't great.
But did I really see the words "realistic" and "Battleship in space" in the same sentence when describing an Eldar BFG model? Oh jeez... lol
@Zhukov
I disagree with you on the level of detail on the Imperial fists ships. There is a ton of detail there, including some very good shading and battle damage. I was surprised they didn't do better than they did. They were certainly my 1st choice for fleet.
As for the Jormugandr vs Eldar BB thing, I went for Jormugandr. The paint job was superb and it made the ship look very realistic. The detail on the base was fantastic and didn't detract from the model (and since it's a base you could replace it with a blank one for gaming if you really wanted). So this ship had it all, it demonstrated great technical ability, looked striking and realistic. The Eldar ship on the other hand used a blue and brown colour scheme, which is fine for providing great contrast but it's still blue and brown. I mean c'mon. Ich. Also, the painted faces showed a lot of skill, but I really didn't like them. Who wants some pictures of old men all over their ship? Now, if they'd been Dragons or Eagles or Griffons or some such, sure.
So both ships demonstrated great expertise and were quite striking, but the Eldar ship had blue/brown and some things painted on it. Therefore Jormugandr won for me.
Honestly, the battle damage to the Fist ships was so small I didn't even see it until I zoomed in the photo to about 200%, about five minutes ago. That being said, I think those details should have been done with a darker color so they would be more noticable. It's a good idea he had though, it's just the execution was poor. And it still doesn't resolve my initial complaint of the amount of the model that received very little attention (like around the gun batteries).
As for the Jormugandr, I thought it was great. Very realistic looking and showed some good skill to blend the right colors to get that look.
The Eldar BB, was ridiculous. It has faded effects all over the model (check out the beams on the sails, for instance). The face artwork and artwork to the extra side bits was near extravagant. Not to mention, the Eldar writing. I thought this was too much to beat.
-Zhukov
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Dunno, I think the battle damage/weathering on the Imperial Fist Barge was pretty good visible and very well executed. And if I am not mistaken the Imperial Fist logo is also free hand. Could be mistaken though.
The NovaMarines Venerable Battle Barge had waterslide transfers as can be clearly seen. Who the heck think he could get away with that.... oh... ehm... wait.... ::) heh heh
And, oh, I'd like to hear some things about entry 2F. Not to harsh... ;)
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@horizon 2f
I dont like the orange over the yellow from the color composition, doesnt fit together well and at least for me that destroys the appearance as thats the point were you look at first. The blue parts seem to be highlighted well but its a bit hard to see in the picture. Its nice that you painted small details like tips of antennas.
What did you guys think about my dark angel strike cruiser?
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I dont mind the orange over yellow. Actually, I really like that color scheme.
Even more, I have always like Novamarines scheme and would love to see more ships of that type.
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And, oh, I'd like to hear some things about entry 2F. Not to harsh... ;)
Already done ;)
What did you guys think about my dark angel strike cruiser?
Nice idea, good for the conversion exept one point: Sword/wing ( DA symbols ) on each side of the prow are too wide. Paint them directly on prow would be better and keep the ship line. For the paint itself, need more lightning effect on edges. Keep working like this.
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@horizon 2f
I dont like the orange over the yellow from the color composition, doesnt fit together well and at least for me that destroys the appearance as thats the point were you look at first. The blue parts seem to be highlighted well but its a bit hard to see in the picture. Its nice that you painted small details like tips of antennas.
It ain't got any orange. lol.
Awkward about the grey....it only got a blue wash at the beginning and then only grey + grey/white highlights. How did it becomeblue?
2F I mean....
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I want to see how well our winner paints up the grand prize I provided... 60 bucks to buy and 60 bucks to ship out to horizon... it had better be a $120 paint job!
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It is a marvelous prize; add the fact I need to ship to <country> it should be a 120 dollar + more paintjob. :)
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I want to see how well our winner paints up the grand prize I provided... 60 bucks to buy and 60 bucks to ship out to horizon... it had better be a $120 paint job!
60 bucks to ship !!!???? DID you send a Life Sized model ......... sounds like it would almost be cheaper to BRING it over.... 8)
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Yeah, I am keeping a living Tyranid in my basement for a couple of months now.
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I had to be sure the model reached horizon in good condition. It is also a gorgeous model and filled with life in its own way. I cannot wait to see it painted.
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It has to be painted and submitted to nxt year's gc
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But did I really see the words "realistic" and "Battleship in space" in the same sentence when describing an Eldar BFG model? Oh jeez... lol
Heh, well "realistic" in this case means "better at suspending disbelief".
Honestly, the battle damage to the Fist ships was so small I didn't even see it until I zoomed in the photo to about 200%, about five minutes ago. That being said, I think those details should have been done with a darker color so they would be more noticable. It's a good idea he had though, it's just the execution was poor. And it still doesn't resolve my initial complaint of the amount of the model that received very little attention (like around the gun batteries).
I must, in all honesty, disagree entirely. I think the battle damage is done very well, and if it were any more noticeable it would run the risk of being overstated. The level of detail around the batteries is fine, it's just as good as the level of detail on the rest of the model, which is great. Consider that if there wasn't the battle damage and massive level of detail the ship would simply look like a big yellow splodge due to the limited palette. In fact, this is probably where you're objection is coming from. The Imperial Fists colour scheme is just yellow. This is terrible from a modelling point of view. What you really want from a modelling point of view is good contrasting colours with depth, something the Eldar BB does very well (I just really dislike the colour combination from an aesthetic point of view, it certainly works on the tabletop).
So, from the point of view of contrast and striking visual appeal you have something; the Imperial Fists ships lack this element. There's not much to be done about it though, after all, Imperial Fists are just yellow. He did the best he could have given the limit. Of course, he could have entered another chapter with a better contrasting colour scheme and it's perfectly fine to judge the Imperial Fists entries lower due to the lack.
As for the Jormugandr, I thought it was great. Very realistic looking and showed some good skill to blend the right colors to get that look.
The Eldar BB, was ridiculous. It has faded effects all over the model (check out the beams on the sails, for instance). The face artwork and artwork to the extra side bits was near extravagant. Not to mention, the Eldar writing. I thought this was too much to beat.
Yes, the Eldar BB was really well done. In the absence of the Jormugandr entry I'd have likely set aside my own aesthetic dislike of the colour palette (after all, it does contrast very well and the brown provides a better depth than black would have and tones well with the beige) and voted it as the best. The ability to freehand those pictures is great and the whole ship is done very well (and I really like the conversion too). However, with the quality of the competition ...
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@horizon 2f
I dont like the orange over the yellow from the color composition, doesnt fit together well and at least for me that destroys the appearance as thats the point were you look at first. The blue parts seem to be highlighted well but its a bit hard to see in the picture. Its nice that you painted small details like tips of antennas.
It ain't got any orange. lol.
Awkward about the grey....it only got a blue wash at the beginning and then only grey + grey/white highlights. How did it becomeblue?
2F I mean....
hmm funny this is how the colors look like for me, maybe its the picture in addition to my monitor settings (even though i watched it on two different monitors)
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@ Sigoroth
I completely understand your reasoning and have to say that I somehow agree with it, but I find it interesting that you call those colors on the Eldar BB "brown" and "beige". Of course, that is what they are, but only if I look at them separately, if I view them as belonging together, then they become golden for me.
I would have never considered the paint-scheme of the Eldar BB to be anything else than "blue and gold". :)
edit: regarding the Imperial Fists:
I think the Battle Damage is very well done, BUT to me those spots of "chipped paint" look out of place on a space ship. Burn marks from explosives or scars from lances would look awesome, as would impact craters from projectiles/ordnance. But chipped paint? Why? Some spaceflight school student clumsily moving around a space dock? ;)
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@ Sigoroth
I completely understand your reasoning and have to say that I somehow agree with it, but I find it interesting that you call those colors on the Eldar BB "brown" and "beige". Of course, that is what they are, but only if I look at them separately, if I view them as belonging together, then they become golden for me.
I would have never considered the paint-scheme of the Eldar BB to be anything else than "blue and gold". :)
Yeah, and this is why the brown works. If you're looking at a conceptual colour scheme, such as one for a football side for example, then blue, black and white would look far and away better than blue, brown and beige (blech!). But painting models with black and white isn't easy to pull off and usually ends up looking pretty flat and yuck. Thus the brown and beige are a better choice because they tone in and have depth of colour (you can shade and highlight both easily) and provide warmth to the model and still contrast very nicely, providing an overall much better effect. I just don't like the colour combination.
edit: regarding the Imperial Fists:
I think the Battle Damage is very well done, BUT to me those spots of "chipped paint" look out of place on a space ship. Burn marks from explosives or scars from lances would look awesome, as would impact craters from projectiles/ordnance. But chipped paint? Why? Some spaceflight school student clumsily moving around a space dock? ;)
The Admiral obviously took his fleet on a short cut through an asteroid field at some point in the recent past.
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heh. I find it oddly surprising the IF stuff has garnered this much debate. I guess I should probably pipe up now. :) The fists were part of a very large imperial Fist epic commission hence the color scheme was locked. This is also why the fleet consisted of only two ships; they were the only two I was commissioned to paint. I could have done a bit more work to pull up contrast and and some details like stripes or more black areas to bring them to a true competition level, but they did need to match the look and style of the rest of the force. They weren't submitted with the expectation of winning, rather just to add more variety to the gothicomp galleries.
It's my personal feeling that the scale of BFG ships is such that mild weathering and paint chipping wouldn't even be visible or cover as large an area as on the fist ships. That's why those are the only ones that I've painted with that kind of weathering.
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Hey everyone. I made a wish as I donated the one ship that was supposed to start my tyranid fleet (though I could not complete it due to a lack of space). That wish was that this Gothicomp would rock.
Considering the level of discussion, and the amazing quality of the ships this year... you have made my dream come true.
Whoever wins the fleet category... I want to see the prize next year! DO IT! THE GROG DEMANDS IT!
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In a few hours the competition closes and I ain't around to see it happen. I'll be back online later today.
So enjoy the revelations of who won GothiComp 2011!
I can reveal that I ended up fifth place in the fleet category. :)
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Thanks for organizing the whole thing Horizon. I just can`t wait to see the reults ;D
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Soooooo.... still online!
THE END!
GOTHICOMP 2011 WINNERS:
Ship Category: Jormugandr by Wintermans
(http://www.tacticalwargames.net/archive/lib/comp/gothicomp11/gothicomp21.jpg)
Fleet Category: Tau fleet 2 by Arnaud Monvoisin (Shas'O Kassad)
(http://www.tacticalwargames.net/archive/lib/comp/gothicomp11/gothicomp120.jpg)
Conversion Prize: Kroot Warsphere (Carrion Lord) by Lee Godden
(http://www.tacticalwargames.net/archive/lib/comp/gothicomp11/gothicomp24.jpg)
Congratulations to all!
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Congratulations to winners and all participants ! Really pleased for this first participation and many thanks to the judges team and Horizon, creator of this competition :).
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Congratulations to the winners and also to all those who enterd :)
I think we should have a big round of applause for the dedicated crew who put this comp on and ran it for our enjoyment :D
Thanks to all..
Ant.
Oh and where can I find a pic of that Kroot warsphere ??
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Congrats all!
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Yes, congratulations from me as well.
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Congrats to all participants as well as the winners!
Prizes?
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Congrats to the winners, the voters, participants and especially the organizers! Thank you all for making this one of the best gothicomps to date!
CF
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Prizes?
Well, Vaaish should contact Wintermans and I will contact Lee & Arnaud.
As an organizer I would like to thank the massive interest, the participants and the voters and the viewers. Without participants the competition wouldn't exist. So thanks again. :)
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Congratulations to the winners and a big thank you to all participants and the organizers and judges!
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Congrats to the winners. ;D
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Congratulations! Great year! Thanks to all who hosted, provided prizes, and all the painters.
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Cool bit from round one:
In heat eight, after 40 votes all five entries had received 8 votes.
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Thanks for a great competition. I had a great fun voting and participating. All hail the organizers.
Winners deserve their titles IMO 8)
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Another great year, and GothiComp appears to go from strength to strength. I hope that events like this keep BFG in the eyes of the players, and make it more difficult for GW to ignore. In particular, thanks to horizon for organising this. A lot of the work that he does for this happens behind the scenes in organising prizes, contacting people who have submitted, answering questions, setting out the rules, checking pictures conform to the regulations and a lot more. Many thanks for all of this.
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Thanks to everyone thanking me. :)
Onto GothiComp 2012!
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Congrats - especially as I voted for both eventual winners :)