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Battlefleet Gothic => [BFG] GothiComp => GothiComp Archive => Topic started by: horizon on April 16, 2014, 07:05:04 PM
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Hi all,
Perhaps beyond expectations but it is that time of the year again:
GothiComp 2014
Following are the rules for GothiComp 2014, feedback appreciated:
Rules GothiComp 2014.
This is the tenth annual GothiComp, and will be run in a similar way to last years events.
The Goal
The general aim of this competition is simply to encourage players to get painting and show off what they can do. I encourage people to enter no matter how good or bad their painting and converting skills are.
The Deadline
This competition will open may 1, 2014, and the deadline for submissions is Wednesday 31st August 2014.
The Categories
Regarding all categories & entries: SpaceShip miniatures from all kind of companies are accepted.
General note: we encourage new ships not been shown in a previous edition of GothiComp. Of course vessels that have been completely repainted are allowed again.
The Single Ship/Squadron entry
Each separate entry should consist of a single miniature (being capital ships) to be used for Battlefleet Gothic (however, note that conversions, scratch builds and even vessels from outside manufacturers are welcome). The only exception to this is:
- If the vessel is a light cruiser or equivalent, one or two vessels may be submitted as a single entry in the same photograph. Space Marine Strike Cruisers can be treated as light cruisers.
Aside from this stipulation, the entry is largely down to the participant.
The community will vote on the entries as usual.
One-Hit Category
This category consists of all 1 hit-point structures & vessels in the game of Battlefleet Gothic. Entries may consist from 1 to 6 models.
The community will vote on the entries as usual.
In addition, there will be a 'conversion prize' chosen from single ship & one hit category. This will be a token prize for one entry based on the skill and style of any conversion work which has gone into the vessel, in an effort to encourage creativity in modelling as well as painting. This will be judged by a select panel. All entries are automatically submitted into both competitions simultaneously. The judges for the conversion prize are myself, Cybershadow and a third person.
The fleet category
Each separate entry should consist of a fleet worth at least 500 and a maximum of 2000 points following the standard BFG list or equivalent (the 2010 drafts are allowed even if GW has not uploaded them by then) .
The community will vote on the entries as usual.
The Prizes
Honour!
&
Mangazoc has created a pool of prizes for every category. The winners will be surprised by what it actually will be, but knowing the quality of his resin work it will be worth it.
The Pictures
You should submit a single picture per entry, no more. Each photograph should be no more than 3 megabytes large. The pixel width should not exceed 1024 x 768.
The Submission
To submit a picture of your vessel to this competition, you simply mail it at: comps@tacticalwargames.net
Make sure the header of the email contains the following: ship name / class name
Note that you do not have to be a member of the
http://specialist-arms.com
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?wwwRedirect
boards to enter this competition but in order to vote you will have to sign up.
We will compile a gallery of the entrants which will be available online. This gallery will remain as a permanent fixture to the site, and so you will be able to browse the pictures in the future. Please note, I am sure that there will be a rush in the last 24 hours before the end of this competition, therefore please don't wait until the last few hours if you can avoid it.
The Voting
Voting will take place here on these boards. Entries will be split into heats. The winner of each heat will go through to the next round until a winner is determined. Please note that entries will be placed into heats in the order in which they are submitted here. Note: having multiple entries from one participant will be spread.
The voting period lasts 7 days.
The voting results will be shown after the poll ends.
Possible tiebreakers depend upon number of entries.
Note that the ship and/or class name will be shown, anonymous upon request otherwise name will be shown.
Additional Rules
All decisions are final, any prizes are non-negotiable and the competition organizers reserve the right to remove competition entries or request that they are resubmitted or altered. We will hopefully never need this stuff, but just in case...
That is it. Feel free to email me with any questions that you may have. Now, what are you doing still reading this? Get painting!
Have fun!
Horizon
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So, it exists!
1. Spread the word
2. Prizes?
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So, this is probably going to sound silly but I see that the single ship section welcomes outside manufacturers, but I didn't see that on the one hit and fleet entries. I'm assuming they're allowed but confirmation would be nice.
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So, this is probably going to sound silly but I see that the single ship section welcomes outside manufacturers, but I didn't see that on the one hit and fleet entries. I'm assuming they're allowed but confirmation would be nice.
Hey Andrew,
I will change it, everything is allowed.
Oh, and we got prizes! Prizes!
Thanks to Mangozac.
Huzzay!
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It's my pleasure to be offering up prizes for all of the categories! Gothicomp is the highlight of the BFG community calendar and it's always a pleasure to help support it. Get to work people I want to see some awesome entries, especially in the conversion categories!
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It's hard to believe its been a year since the last! I'll make sure I enter this year!!!! :-[
RayB HA
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Hey all,
the submission window is open, ending 31st August 2014.
Mail your entry @ comps@tacticalwargames.net
Thanks and Happy Painting & Converting.
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Oh, and spread the word of this competition. :)
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got a squadron of light cruisers spayed earlier today, if i can find the time they will get submitted
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Hey all,
just to tell you : only 2 submissions so far. But more then two months to go so I expect a lot more. :)
And remember: spread the word!
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I put it up on the SG Facebook page and there seems to be a lot of interest so hopefully we will get a big turn out I should probably paint something too but I'm the worst at making time for painting :-\
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I'll try to get something done. Not sure yet if it will happen. Still have 5 mechs to go and bunch of commission stuff/regular work.
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Hey all,
So far... 8 entries. Five of them from Andrew. :(
If I add my own it'll be 10 (or 11).
GothiComp death?
Or will their be a rush in the last 10 days....
So pleaseeee enter. :)
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Crud. I have more ships ;). Hopefully there will be a mad rush :-\.
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Just sent in 4 pics...
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I'll send mine ASAP
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I've asked Miniatures of the North to enter my ship designs he painted up, but dunno if he actually did. :(
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Oh yeah, I'll try and sort out some better pictures of mine to enter.
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@ Malika, nope nothing. Urge him! ;)
@ Rowlybot, cool.
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Hi, I'm Karun, a french guy
I sent my images yesterday :)
I hope you received the 3 of them cause I had only a confirmation for the first mail.
Thanks for the challenge and good luck to everyone :)
Karun
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Got all of them. Cool. :)
Got a good bunch of entries. Thanks to all. Even Ray Bell entered.
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I failed at getting photos taken. Sorry chaps.
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Great ! :)
Hope you like it.
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Great! Theres still through tomorrow right? How many entries are we looking at now?
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I've finished all 3 models
But I'll be able to send photos only on Monday (but due to time difference it can be still 31 in your location) :)
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Somethings never change. ::)
So far (today still open!)
10 fleets
8 1-hit
24 ship
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Hi all !
I entered this year a light cruiser. ::)
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Awesome stuff people! Good turnout!
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like last year, after a last day speedpaint, i got my entry done and just sent the pic in.... ::)
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Just sent in 8 entries - been trying to get photos taken for a while
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15 fleets
13 one hit
33 ship
8)
Now, Spellscape, hurry up!
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see, horizon - don't despair when there seem to be few entries initially. we all are still alive and getting stuff out of the dockyards.... we just are all last minute people ;D :P
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Okay, I sent some in. Hopefully they made it by the deadline ::) (I've spent the weekend broiling at the scottish games - first chance I've had to take some pictures).
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You last minute painters! ;D
16 one hit
16 fleets
38 ships
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Nice amount of entries :)
So what's next ? Will you be able to make the voting topics today ?
I can't wait to see all the pics ! ;D
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Perhaps today.
Spellscape hasn't sent his pictures yet.
And it is the first here...
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Sending in few hours - sorry busyness at work :(
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Could you let me know what you will enter? So I can prepare everything else.
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'kay, one hit category is going up.
If spellscape shows up with escorts I'll think of sumtin....
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And remember:
You vote for best painted entry.
Judges determine conversion winner.
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Sent all my ships (3 letters) got confirmation for 1st one only
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Cool, let's rock ! :)
By the way, Karun is my nickname, and François my first name.
You can just put "Karun", or François 'Karun' :D
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Got em all Spellscape and added them to heat c & d. (1 vote was casted).
The other one in the ship section.
@ Karun, I will add all other polls and then change everything to Karun.
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(1 vote was casted).
Yepp, mine. And I might even have gone for his, had it already been there...
Ah well. Spellscape, consider it a life lesson concerning deadlines.
;)
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Fixed the picture in heat one.
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All heats are up!
And full galeries (without the 1A, IIC, etc)
One hit category (https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+RoyAmkreutz/albums/6054189033127977953)
Ship Category (https://plus.google.com/photos/102249109522042821694/albums/6054188219738363009)
Fleet Category (https://plus.google.com/photos/102249109522042821694/albums/6054194702970074513)
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Great work doing this all the years!
Didnt enter this year but already voted.
Its interesting to see how more Firestorm fleets seem to get thrown in and even a Dropzone Commander fleet.
Also lot of conversion this time.
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Good work all!
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And the polls for the Grand Final are on!
Vote on the best painted vessel!
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And a small note:
Upon request of Karun we have withdrawn his fleet from heat II/the competition.
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Why? So his single Ships are still tehre and the fleet is gone?
Or shouldnt we vote on his ships too?
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Yeah, you can vote on his one-hit & ship entry.
Only his fleet has been removed.
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Hi !
I felt like some explanations would be great.
Monday evening I asked some pals on facebook to go voting in Fleet category, but they overreacted and it went a bit crasy. I won the heat, but I wouldn't without support, and it wasn't very fair. :(
Sorry about that, I thought anyone could have done the same and I would be the only one not to do so. I won't do it again for the second round.
So we discussed it with Dak Rogan and Horizon and decided to retire me from the heat, and all is fine and peaceful now.
Cheers,
Karun
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Hmm not an easy topic. Just because the total votes are so low in number... Normally i wouldnt see that as a problem.
Btw. i dont think you win because of that. You fleet simply is the best painted. Of course thats just my opinion.
Just look at the winner threads now. Its not that you dont have a huge gap to the 2nd in votes.
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Hello all,
and the voting is over, GothiComp 2014 has come to an end! Here are the winners:
Ship Category
4A. Battleship Swordbreaker - Karun
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/e2BR57HaYJ-rDFaHfoQIb4R1RKj4LM6cG3NOgLx652_z=w595-h447-no)
Fleet Category
IIB. Imperial Navy Fleet 3 - Dak Rogan
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TzQBjajJczw/VASjzDqxx3I/AAAAAAABQxg/6mzSb74sTLI/w595-h447-no/IIB.%2BImperial%2BNavy%2B3%2B-%2BDak%2BRogan.jpg)
One-hit category
AB. Corvette Plumbata - Francois Karun
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--JWiKt3k4Ac/VASkxGWlYWI/AAAAAAABQ2M/RrG53k9go3o/w595-h485-no/AB.%2BCorvette%2BPlumbata%2B-%2BFrancois%2BKarun.jpg)
and as judged by the judges:
Conversion winner:
4B. Krak' em Ork Battlekroozer - zenithfleet
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-edD5nfRaUWg/VATMNt0OwVI/AAAAAAABRDA/ewCkKK0JFK8/w595-h279-no/Krak%2B%27Em%2BOrk%2BBattleKroozer%2B-%2Bzenithfleet.jpg)
Well done all! Thanks for participating & voting!
horizon
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Thanks for organizing it!
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Congrats to all the winners! I'll be in touch shortly to organise prizes ;)
And indeed a big thanks to Horizon for organizing Gothicomp again for yet another year!
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Congratulations to the winners!
And of course to all other who have managed to finish their projects and enter Gothicomp, because thats what it is all about!
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Thanks to everyone ! :)
Thanks to the organisators, and in advance to Mangazoc for the prizes !
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Congrats to the winners. It was cool seeing everyones entries.
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Congratulations to every one who entered this year again.
I discovered in january the gothicomp, and i'll be there next year i think :)
My goal was to know what the community will think of my work, and i'm wasn't disappointed at all.
So yeah, i'm still a beginer in this domain, but i'll work hard again to improve my skills and enter in 2015 if it's possible :)
One time again, thanks to every one, from Horizon and Mangozac to every member who just voted, this competition exists thanks to you all !
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A big thank-you to horizon, mangozac and the judges for all your hard work running GothiComp this year :D
It was great to see all the inspiring entries. Long live BFG!
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:)
Well, onto next year.
With the gathering numbers of non-BFG models in the competition I am planning to change the categories a little.
Why? Because an escort from the Firestorm Armada range is as big as a light or even full cruiser from the BFG range. And hitpoints are different
Solution: Changing categories:
One-hit category -> Small Models (up to 5cm in length/width/height)
Ship Categogory -> Bigger models, everything larger then above.
Would that work?
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what about dividing into BFG and others? that way we have a winner with traditional models and one with FA or such ;)
had the idea because most of the other ships have much nicer surfaces for special effects, which the winners of this year used to full extent... and its kinda hard to pull off with anything besides eldar or tau in BFG :-\
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I support the above suggestion as a way to anchor our interests in BFG yet expand to other models/games
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what about dividing into BFG and others? that way we have a winner with traditional models and one with FA or such ;)
had the idea because most of the other ships have much nicer surfaces for special effects, which the winners of this year used to full extent... and its kinda hard to pull off with anything besides eldar or tau in BFG :-\
Same advice here :)
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I also like the idea of separate categories for BFG and other fleet scale game systems.
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Heya, tomorrow I will explain it some more but that idea is one I will not use. I even think it is a really bad one on top of it as well.
:)
'kay.
So Fistus_Maximus: you say that painters have an advantage on Firestorm Armada vessels compared to Battlefleet Gothic Vessels? I disagree.
Sure they have some more flat surfaces but that does not mean that the more detailed styled BFG ships can't pull of "special effects".
Just check the GothiComp hall of fame for example. Note Giullo's standard Chaos cruiser? Or the way Vaaish & Canucks Fan can make Marines shine (aside of the heavy conversion CF did with the big flat surface)? Or some of the French entries we had in the past.
You say that Eldar & Tau have that advantage as well? So we should lump them into the Firestorm Armada catagory then?
What with the models from other manufacturers?
And if we did split this up it would mean two/three more categories in total.
(http://www.prawnpower.fightsevil.org.uk/pics/gw/bfleet/sacrifice/set01.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B6ObqL360c8/UhWpm9AVdOI/AAAAAAAAD2c/kBeSmubnmBk/w640-h480-no/gddm.jpg)
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Just check the GothiComp hall of fame for example. Note Giullo's standard Chaos cruiser? Or the way Vaaish & Canucks Fan can make Marines shine (aside of the heavy conversion CF did with the big flat surface)? Or some of the French entries we had in the past.
I was not able to do that before, as when the last time i checked, most of the links were broken. now, after checking back, i do see your point, yes ;)
You say that Eldar & Tau have that advantage as well? So we should lump them into the Firestorm Armada catagory then?
never said that they should be different categories too, was just stating an opinion based on my experiences.
also, while i can see your point about a more skilled person being able to achieve better effects on more complicated surfaces too; you did not really give a reason why there should not be two categories (BFG and non BFG).
seeing as there were people agreeing with me on the subject, i'd like to hear why you disagree on that idea in general :)
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Weird, the hall of fame has been up since last year afaik.
Heh, well, because
1) it would spread to thin.
2) what about other manufacturers?
3) categories would jump from 3 to 6 for one exception already
4) should Tau/Eldar be banned from BFG?
5) I think it is cooler to have all space ships competing.
6) kitbashed, conversions, where do they go?
7) it is a can of worms
oh, and because I'm a dictator. 8)
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Also and I hate to state the obvious reality, but the supply of official BFG models can only dwindle over time. Eventually you'll just have the BFG category whither to nothing. Relative physical size and/or fleets would be best to enter, irrespective of manufacturer.
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oh, and because I'm a dictator. 8)
thats what convinced me.
;D
okay, in all seriousness: while i may disagree with certain points, you did state enough to justify the rejection of my idea, and i fully understand. i'll shut up now :-X :P
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:)
Well, onto next year.
With the gathering numbers of non-BFG models in the competition I am planning to change the categories a little.
Why? Because an escort from the Firestorm Armada range is as big as a light or even full cruiser from the BFG range. And hitpoints are different
Solution: Changing categories:
One-hit category -> Small Models (up to 5cm in length/width/height)
Ship Categogory -> Bigger models, everything larger then above.
Would that work?
Maybe three categories?
Small Ships, Medium Ships (up to BFG grand cruiser size aprox 5-12cm? two 'light' cruisers still? what size is a light cruiser?), Large Ships (battleships and larger...)
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1480598_920267254669922_6237142995118280182_n.jpg?oh=acc4a997b2e46f2d770243400c97523f&oe=54C86144&__gda__=1421537549_de4bb8d40655bae3dc7e13e69c76537e)
Here we can see a Retribution compared to a Spartan Armageddon (yellow) and Overseer (white). The Overseer is one of the smaller "large" sized Spartan ships (carrier) while the Armageddon is one of the largest (dreadnought). Both are significantly larger then the Retribution in presence, if not significantly larger in length/width.
Next a Directorate Executioner cruiser, a Carnage, and a Dauntless. While these are closer to each other (Spartan still has a bit larger presence) they're all dwarfed by the larger models.
Lastly here are a couple of Spartan frigates along with a Firestorm. These are not really too different at all (some of the newer Spartan resin frigates are significantly larger though).
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