Chasing Mice?

[Lex]

As you all know I don't see the bell as the only problem.

Imo Skaven should be changed in a package. As they have standard advancing rules now they should also cost standard points. Now Skaven have an even higher breakpoint (I'd say +2 average) than they should have (and need).

There is a basic decision to make:

1) Should Skaven get their old Advance-Restriction back? (Means they are only allowed to do an Advance Move if they destroyed their opponent in the first round of combat). Then their pricing is perfectly ok I think.

2) Should Skaven have the possibility to advance as any other army has too? Then the pricing (of a lot of units) should be changed.

Opinions?

Well, I have one simple one .... with a lot of skaven players having invested into buying enough units to field their armies, making the unit cost higher, and thus invalidating a lot of their units does not sound as a good idea  (neekneek). LOL.....  remember I even forgot to play the Advance rules anyway, so going back to the old rule (which IIRC also included a fall-back behind the original fights line of contact sounds fine with me ...

[Carrington]

As you all know I don't see the bell as the only problem.

Imo Skaven should be changed in a package. As they have standard advancing rules now they should also cost standard points. Now Skaven have an even higher breakpoint (I'd say +2 average) than they should have (and need).

There is a basic decision to make:

1) Should Skaven get their old Advance-Restriction back? (Means they are only allowed to do an Advance Move if they destroyed their opponent in the first round of combat). Then their pricing is perfectly ok I think.

2) Should Skaven have the possibility to advance as any other army has too? Then the pricing (of a lot of units) should be changed.

Opinions?

Huh?  Standard advancing rules _now_? Did I miss an army list update?

[spiritusXmachina]

I guess not .
Originally the Skaven army was designed with the rule that they could not advance after destroying an enemy - only if they destroyed him in the first round of combat.
Later on someone decided to leave that rule away obviously not being aware that there is a "rat-tail" of other things linked with that rule. That's probably the army list you got to know.
Leaving that rule away changed the balance of Skaven a lot imo.

Greetings,
Gerald

[Meister.Petz]

I tried a game against Dark Elves without Advance move (after longer CCs) and have to say it really hurts.
In my opinion the "old advance move skaven rule" is quite good here. Rather better than making the units more expensive 

Greetings
Peter