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Offline Carrington

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Re: [WM] Has anyone tried dipping any 10mm models?
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2010, 02:59:31 AM »
I need to play around with Future/Pledge floor polish -- my impression is that it has less toxic solvents, and thus less of a need for ventilation or a respirator.

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Re: [WM] Has anyone tried dipping any 10mm models?
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2010, 01:13:13 PM »
I started using Future Floor Polish last fall.  I mix 1 part Future, 4 parts water, and ink to make a wash.  I have also used paint to supply the pigment, but the ink provides a smoother result.

I used the wash on my 40K Necrons.  I "painted" them with a spray on chrome, and then washed them with a black wash to protect the chrome and define the areas.  (In my first attempt, I destroyed 6 months of work when I did not cover the chrome before spraying on the sealer.  Six months of work destroyed in 5 minutes.  I was heartbroken for days.)  I then added paint over the Future for details. 

I started an experiment on some High Elf Swordmasters, because the High Elf scale mail drove me nuts when I painted it.  The results are encouraging, but I used a wash based on paint rather than ink.  I haven't created a new wash with ink yet.

It occurs to me that I used my purple Future wash on my daemons for my Daemon army.  See the Warmaster Tale of Painters.  See especially "The Watcher in the Sky".  All the Daemon horde units were washed with a wash to bring put the details.

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Re: [WM] Has anyone tried dipping any 10mm models?
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2010, 05:11:43 PM »
I started using Future Floor Polish last fall.  I mix 1 part Future, 4 parts water, and ink to make a wash.  I have also used paint to supply the pigment, but the ink provides a smoother result.

I used the wash on my 40K Necrons.  I "painted" them with a spray on chrome, and then washed them with a black wash to protect the chrome and define the areas.  (In my first attempt, I destroyed 6 months of work when I did not cover the chrome before spraying on the sealer.  Six months of work destroyed in 5 minutes.  I was heartbroken for days.)  I then added paint over the Future for details. 

I started an experiment on some High Elf Swordmasters, because the High Elf scale mail drove me nuts when I painted it.  The results are encouraging, but I used a wash based on paint rather than ink.  I haven't created a new wash with ink yet.

It occurs to me that I used my purple Future wash on my daemons for my Daemon army.  See the Warmaster Tale of Painters.  See especially "The Watcher in the Sky".  All the Daemon horde units were washed with a wash to bring put the details.

Very cool, thanks for the info.  Have you tried Future using alcohol instead of water?

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Re: [WM] Has anyone tried dipping any 10mm models?
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2010, 07:12:06 PM »
I have not tried alcohol.  I use rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol) to strip acrylic paint off second hand figures (praise Ebay).  I didn't think it would be a good idea to put alcohol into the mix. 

What is the alcohol supposed to do?  I imagine a faster drying time, but I am not sure what else it would do.

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Re: [WM] Has anyone tried dipping any 10mm models?
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2010, 03:33:06 AM »
I have not tried alcohol.  I use rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol) to strip acrylic paint off second hand figures (praise Ebay).  I didn't think it would be a good idea to put alcohol into the mix.  

What is the alcohol supposed to do?  I imagine a faster drying time, but I am not sure what else it would do.


Faster drying time, and -- presumably -- less surface tension, allowing the ink to flow more deeply into the recesses of the model.

I would guess that isopropyl is most effective at stripping paint when the models are soaked in it -- I'd be surprised if it had much of an effect if painted on.

The other thing I want to for this kind of wash/dip is artist's acrylic medium.

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Re: [WM] Has anyone tried dipping any 10mm models?
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2010, 07:19:56 PM »
Surface tension.  I hadn't considered that.  Maybe that's why the inks are better than the washes that I make with just water, Future, and paint.

I'm not sure, but my guess is that inks have alcohol in them.

Thanks for the idea!

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Re: [WM] Has anyone tried dipping any 10mm models?
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2010, 07:25:06 PM »
Surface tension.  I hadn't considered that.  Maybe that's why the inks are better than the washes that I make with just water, Future, and paint.

I'm not sure, but my guess is that inks have alcohol in them.

Thanks for the idea!

Future is supposed to help with surface tension as well, but I've seen 4x1(x1) alcohol-future-ink/paint mixes suggested.

It has also been noted that Future can be airbrushed on.