Diving Charge - An Unusual Situation and Question.

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Okay,

So a diving charge happens when within 1 inch of the base of a building IIRC, pass your initiative tests for every full 2 inches, if successful you land in base contact and strike at +1 to hit and +1 strength in the first round of combat. The question I have involves pulling off a diving charge when you are on a ground level at the beginning of the round, but when it comes time for you to move other charges have been moved first and are blocking your path to the model you've declared a charge against. If a path exists whereby you can move and get to a higher vantage point above the model to then diving charge into base contact, are you able to do this legally?

E.g. Your path is now blocked by 3 friendly members who have engaged the model in a narrow alley, one square on and two corner to corner. You have to charge the opponent in the most direct way possible assuming you have movement left to reach, but because you declared the charge at the beginning of the turn you can't change the charge target. Assuming that no other enemy models are in range to intercept you at all, and that terrain is set up in such a way that you are able to freely move up to a level of a ruin/building or other terrain piece above the target model, would you be able to move up there, get to the top and diving charge off into combat? You can't get to the model directly but there are stairs you passed leading to a level of a ruin around the other side of this low wall, you vault the wall, run up the stairs, reach the edge and dive into combat as your friends engage head to head.

Thoughts?

Ram.

[ANSWER_MOD_DABANK]

Follow the basic rules of the game.

1) Most direct path (whatever that way my be)
2) LOS or within Initiative range.
3) Is there room for the models to fit?
4) Do you have enough charge range to make it?

If you can meet all four then it looks possible. Without being at that gaming table and getting a real visual of the terrain it would be hard to agree hence the gaming group should apply the four basic rules of the game when it comes to charging in such an instance.

Please do not turn this into a thread that will not die or I will close it. Unless I missed something then this topic is not up for a zillion different possibilities.

[StyrofoamKing]

Although, while on the subject, at my group's last meeting, we house ruled that you can't intercept a diving charge, unless you're preventing the model before he reaches the ledge.  (It's a fun mental image of somebody trying to a stop a mid-air attack, however  )

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Although, while on the subject, at my group's last meeting, we house ruled that you can't intercept a diving charge, unless you're preventing the model before he reaches the ledge.  (It's a fun mental image of somebody trying to a stop a mid-air attack, however  )

What happens if youc rossbow pistol the divee before the combat begins and they are knocked down or stunned, can someone within 2 inches of the landing point 'intercept' to finish him off then?

[ANSWER_MOD_DABANK]

No, you can't intercept. Rules for intercept shows a linear movement and not vertical movement for it. For as many reasons why there are for why not?

A diving charge is a "surprise" Attack that already requires Initiative test for it. No need in making it more difficult than what it is and keep you models more than 2inches away from buildings and you won't have to worry about it.

Get with your gaming group to see how they want to do it.

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Okay, thats eems reasonable enough. However:

Rules for intercept shows a linear movement and not vertical movement for it. For as many reasons why there are for why not?

What happens when you are charging down a ramp? Down steps or down a ladder or other rsituations which are not strictly horizontal nor vertical? Just because the diagram shows for horizontal doesn't mean it can't be taken with a  grain of salt so to speak for other angles of movement.

Leave it to the group I suppose is the best solution.

Cheers,

Ram.

[ANSWER_MOD_DABANK]

Ram.

There is NO WAY possible to cover every single incident for Mordheim. I have conveyed the rules. If the rules can not be figured out then discuss with your gaming group.

This topic is now closed.