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Offline BlackEd

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Geroff! spell question
« on: June 08, 2011, 04:57:30 PM »
The Geroff! spell for the Orcs and Goblins states that the results of the spell are worked out exactly as a driveback (as from shooting).  This was in the Warmaster Armies book, which I downloaded from this website.

So some questions:  When a unit of cannons is targeted and more than 10cm are rolled, is the unit destroyed?  (Drive back distance exceeds full pace movement distance.)  Similar questions for infantry and cavalry.

Can a unit be confused by driven back by a Geroff spell?

I think what surprised me the most was that unit could be routed from the table by this spell!

Ed

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Re: Geroff! spell question
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 06:25:56 PM »
Nope, it can't be routed by the spell, says so in the description. I'd say no to the confusion as well, but that's not explicit. Falling back 30cm from a roll of a 6 is probably bad enough on its own without adding confusion in.

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Re: Geroff! spell question
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 02:07:53 PM »
I refer you to the entry for War Wagon in Warmaster Armies where it states on page 37, eighth full paragraph:

A laagered wagon cannot be driven back or routed by shooting.
However - it is still deemed necessary to roll drive backs
(remember it is defended) to determine if the War Wagon
becomes Confused on a roll of a 6.  The same applies to Gerroff.
Roll the dice as normal.  If the wagon would normally have left
the table then roll 1 D6. If a 6 is rolled it is confused.

This suggests that Gerroff was meant to include confusion, but perhaps not routed off the table...



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Re: Geroff! spell question
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2011, 04:00:40 PM »
IThe same applies to Gerroff.
Roll the dice as normal.  If the wagon would normally have left
the table then roll 1 D6. If a 6 is rolled it is confused.

This suggests that Gerroff was meant to include confusion, but perhaps not routed off the table...

The same, from your quote applies to the fact that the Warwagon wont move. Contrary to suffering wounds from shooting where any of the driveback dice can come up a 6, the Gerrooff will ONLY confuse when its result would have moved the wagon of table. In which case it has a 1-in-6 chance of being Confused.

does that resolve the confusion, or just add to it  8)

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Re: Geroff! spell question
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2011, 05:05:06 PM »
I don't know about Ed, but that sure confused me... :P

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Re: Geroff! spell question
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2011, 09:32:34 PM »
OK, here's the description.  I highlighted an important bit.

GERROFF!!!
5+ to cast
Range 60cm
The voice of Gork booms out across the battlefield driving back
his foes with a rancid gale force yell.
This spell can be cast on any unengaged enemy unit within range
regardless of whether the Shaman can see it or not. The spell
cannot be cast on a unit engaged in combat.
The enemy unit is driven back 5 x D6cm towards its own table
edge. This is treated in the same way as a drive back from
shooting, except that the direction is established by determining
the shortest route to the table edge. A unit cannot be routed by
a drive back from a Gerroff spell.
If the unit leaves the table edge
it must roll as described in the main Warmaster rules (See
Movement p19-23).

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Re: Geroff! spell question
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2011, 09:34:03 PM »
Based on the full description of the spell above, then the answer is no, a unit cannot be routed.  But yes, a unit can be confused.

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Re: Geroff! spell question
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2011, 09:42:52 PM »
What would happen if the unit was driven off the table with a roll of a 6? Would it have to wait a turn to stop being confused before it could come back on?

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Re: Geroff! spell question
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 10:21:29 PM »
What would happen if the unit was driven off the table with a roll of a 6? Would it have to wait a turn to stop being confused before it could come back on?
Actualy you would roll for "unit moved of the table" to establish what the fate of the unit is BEFORE that consideration would come into play....