Adepticon 2012 (April 20-22) BFG Tournament

[Seahawk]

To be honest, I never liked any scenario that added or took away from a fleet, such as like this one. Achieving different battlefield objectives is more entertaining and fair, to me.

BUT, playtest and see what you come up with.

[lordgoober]

Concerns noted and taken into account.  We will be using the transport flotilla in every game now.  I will edit the fleet construction rules appropriately. 

This will be official.

Fleet Design

1500 point fleet
In addition.  You have a transport flotilla with your fleet that is the construction equivalent of 6 normal transports.  IE 2 1/2 transport variants (Escort Carriers and Armed Transports) are needed to count for 1 point of transports and heavy transports count 2 towards this count.  You will have an extra 120 points in your fleet point allotment that can only be used towards Transport upgrades.  If you wish you may spend points from your normal fleet allotment on more transport upgrades.  The transport flotilla will be used in all 3 games.

Oopsie.  Escort Carriers don't count towards victory conditions so they are like the Q-ships and are 0 "point" transports so are just bought as an upgrade to the flotilla.

Addendum,  taking the concerns in the other thread into account,  all fleets except for the Eldar (Corsair and Craftworld) will use the standard transport types.  Necrons are disallowed Escort Carriers since their fleet doesn't use attack craft.  Eldar will follow FAQ 2010 for their transport stats.

[Mycen]

What about Tyranids? If they select escort carriers, what kind of ordnance will the transports launch?

EDIT: Also, what about normal transports? If they aren't any of the special variants, are they free additions to the transport flotilla? If not, how many points do they cost?

[lordgoober]

Ok.  All of the transports are going to be of the standard rules.  You will launch attack craft appropriate to your fleet. 

You know what,  EVERY fleet will use the standard transports,  even the pansy eldar   I liked the fluff idea that someone had put in the other thread. 

Normal transports cost no points normally since they're scenario specific.  The 120 free points you get are meant to be for Upgrades to the other types of transports. 

So for example,  You could do this

6 normal transports + 2 (q-ship/escort transport)
1 Heavy Transport (counts as 2 transports)+ 6 Armed Freighter (total counts as 3 transports as each Armed Freighter counts as 1/2 a normal) + 1 normal transport
etc.

Now we're going to be fluffing these as being recovered transports from a lost fleet so they should all have the Imperial feel but you can convert them to be more appropriate to the fleet that recovered them (like tentacles and stuff for tyranids),  bonus props to a necron guy who brings a Heavy Transport and makes it look like a Stargate Ha'tak.

[horizon]

I liked the fluff idea that someone had put in the other thread. 

[AndrewChristlieb]

just incase theres any takers that need some visual aid

[lordgoober]

Ok.  I've got the scenario plans pretty much set and the new methodology set for the sub missions that are used but could use some feedback and playtesting outside my local group.  Would peeps here be willing to give me some of that data?

[AndrewChristlieb]

If your looking at running custom scenarios and subplots would it really be fair to allow people to playtest them when there will possiably be others that have not seen these come game day? That aside I imagine I can run through some for you and see how they work out.

[lordgoober]

It's not normally a problem because we run primer tournaments for most events and those scenarios are posted to the Adepticon website and most final scenarios are usually very close to the primer scenarios if not the same.

[Seahawk]

I can do playtesting.

[Mycen]

I can playtest with you if you like, I'm in the area. Let me know when you're available, we can meet up at the Downer's Grove GW store. (That's nearby Adepticon, right?)

[AndrewChristlieb]

Are these the ones your wanting run then? Im not seeing anything to do with transports has that idea been dropped?

http://www.adepticon.org/wpfiles/2011/2011bfg.pdf

[lordgoober]

no.  those are last year's scenarios.  I haven't posted the new ones anywhere yet.

Ok.  so here's the basic schtick for this year's sub missions.  Instead of rolling on the chart like on the older scenarios,  what you are going to have is a pack of 5 cards.  2 of which are scenario restricted.  Each has a 3/2/1 bonus bp objective where you only get the highest bonus bp.  You will be able to use 1-2 per game,  these are picked secretly before deployment.  I got this idea from Bilbo's Birthday Bash where you had 4 and use 1 per game with scenario 5 having a fixed one,  that being said when you have only 3 games,  I decided to have players able to use 2 so we can have a bonus swing of up to 15 from sub missions,  which is almost the point value for a "massacre"

Card #3 is not allowed in Scenario 2 of this pack,  Card #4 is not allowed for Scenario 3

Cards 3 and 4 are why the transports are being used in every game.

#1 Head of the Snake

3 Pts:  Bridge Smashed Critical or Destroy enemy flagship
2 Pts:  Enemy Flagship Disengaged
1 Pt:  Enemy Flaghsip Crippled

#2:  Attrition

3 Pts:  Destroy or Cripple 75% enemy fleet
2 Pts:  Destroy or Cripple 50% enemy fleet
1 Pt:  Destroy or Cripple 25% enemy fleet

#3:  Break Through

3 Pts:  Get all 6 strength points of Transport Flotilla off Opponent's Board Edge
2 Pts:  Get 4 strength points of Transport Flotilla off Opponent's Board Edge
1 Pt:  Get 2 strength points of Transport Flotilla off Opponent's Board Edge

#4:  Commerce Raiders

3 Pts:  Destroy all 6 strength points of opponent's transport flotilla
2 Pts:  Destroy 4 strength points of opponent's transport flotilla
1 Pt:  Destroy 2 strength points of opponent's transport flotilla

#5:  Preservation of Fleet Strength

3 Pts:  at least 75% of your fleet must be alive and uncrippled at end of game
2 Pts:  at least 50% of your fleet must be alive and uncrippled at end of game
1 Pt:  at least 25% of your fleet must be alive and uncrippled at end of game

Each table will have a warp rift somewhere on the board.  +1 bonus BP for successfully navigating with at least one ship/squadron.  Warp rift will not be dead center of board unlike past years.

Transport flotilla must be deployed as legal squadrons,  they do not need to all be in one squadron.

Scenario 1:  BRB Scenario 10 Stock from book. 

Scenario 2:  Land the Transports.  Medium planet in Center of board.  Transport must park in orbit and survive to the owner's next turn in order to land.  +50 vp for 1/2 transports (fast clippers and armed transports),  +100 vp for regular transports,  +200 vp for heavy transports.

Scenario 3:  Deny them the Spoils.  20 cm standard deployment,  VP as from scenario 2 for destroying enemy transports.

In year's past I've had the final scenario be the Sink the Bismark scenario from the pdf on the website.  I've gotten a few comments that this scenario is getting a bit stale and am swapping it out this year.  It may see a return in 2013.  As you can see,  the scenarios aren't anything overly complicated this time around (case in point the random deployment from 2011) so there shouldn't be huge issues.  The transport flotillas are what make this year interesting. 

[AndrewChristlieb]

Scenario 1:  BRB Scenario 10 Stock from book. 

Scenario 2:  Land the Transports.  Medium planet in Center of board.  Transport must park in orbit and survive to the owner's next turn in order to land.  +50 vp for 1/2 transports (fast clippers and armed transports),  +100 vp for regular transports,  +200 vp for heavy transports.

Scenario 3:  Deny them the Spoils.  20 cm standard deployment,  VP as from scenario 2 for destroying enemy transports.

In year's past I've had the final scenario be the Sink the Bismark scenario from the pdf on the website.  I've gotten a few comments that this scenario is getting a bit stale and am swapping it out this year.  It may see a return in 2013.  As you can see,  the scenarios aren't anything overly complicated this time around (case in point the random deployment from 2011) so there shouldn't be huge issues.  The transport flotillas are what make this year interesting. 

1. BRB? im not familar with this do you mean BBB which wolud make this a standard Fleet Engagement w/ a randomly placed warprift and all other setup as per standard rules? does the warp rift take the place of a randomly generated terrain feature or is in addition to? Will the terrain be randomly generated at all?

2. I cannot find this scenario? what are the setup requirements? same terrain questions as above. also what designates orbit? is this anywhere within the gravity well or must the ships enter the low orbit table?

3. ^ same on setup requirements and terrain questions

[lordgoober]

Ok.  Standard deployment is 20cm from long board edge.  Each table is going to have 3 gas cloud pieces and 3 asteroid fields, the warp rift and a small planet.  Scenario 2 will have a Medium Planet and has a gravity well according to the rules in the center of the board instead of the small planet.  Distribute terrain as normal except that the Warp Rift will always be on the center line so neither player has a shorter distance to get to it.   

Ships must stop in the gravity well and stay there until their next movement phase.  We don't have the space to attempt to do Low Orbit tables at Adepticon. Space has become even MORE of a premium this year due to events selling out even faster than expected,  hell,  the silly roundbaser main events (40k Team Tournament and 40k Championship) sold out in the first 18 hours of the webcart being open.