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Offline spiritusXmachina

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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2012, 10:27:43 AM »
I have thought a little more about the aforementioned YouTube channel and the more I think about the more I would like to do it. At the very least it would get me a little more familiar with video editing and perhaps exploring software and camera choices.  If I decided to go through with it what would people find interesting to watch?

Great idea! I was having fantasies about a film about a game of Warmaster commented by two sports commentators while the game was going on. Most important would be the fun aspect, not too much mingling with detail rules but with the overall flow of the battle. I think it would be best to make a kind of public relation movie out of it which makes other gamers curious.

But back to topic:
Here in Austria in the golden age we had about 12-16 active players and some still find their way back to WM from time to time.
We are lucky to have a Tabletop Gaming Club the WoW/Keepers with regular Club Evenings where we can show our games and attract new gamers. So sometimes gamers lose their interest in WM but others step in again.
At the moment I'd say I have 4 other players I could challenge any time in the area around Vienna and another 2-3  if I'm willing to drive 1,5h to Styria. For a tournament there might be another 4-6 players I could activate at best, but that depends upon the tournament. I organised a silly "Vice Versa Tournament" a few weeks ago where players brought their own armylists and armies but played with the opponent's army (Winner was who won the most games against his own army). It was really fun but only attracted four players!
Most WM players around here also have interest in other Specialist Games or in alternative Games, some even find their way into the odd Warhammer Fantasy or 40k again :o, some even totally drop out of Tabletops. It's a steady coming and going.

Imo in the golden age the most devastating thing was the onkeeping rumours about GW dropping Warmaster. A lot of players stopped playing WM or did not have a go because of those rumours (and if it's true some GW employees at the shops around here were a bit responsible for that too). As it seems GW did'nt kill WM exactly but does'nt really keep it alive either (there's a saying here: too much to die not enough to live). And although there are positive side-effects too I miss the impulse of new official rules, official army lists, new official units. Because those were the times old players would have a skeptical look and new players were drawn into the game with excitement.

On the other hand there are tapletop games which did not change for centuries and still are played...

For me Warmaster still is the best Big Battle Tabletop game I know, although I also have a game of Mortheim or Blood Bowl too.
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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2012, 11:22:33 AM »
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I currently have access to the Rulebook and most of the magazines
This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask for a while-
I should soon have completed the full collection of WM magazines- is it a good idea/ legal to scan these and have them posted on this forum, like the Fanatic magazines done by CyberShadow?

That would be wonderful!

Though I would advise maybe putting them on Scribd.  GW care a whole bunch about people posting points values from current systems, but the fact that all the SG rules are up for free... On the official GW site!  Tells us that we're pretty free to post stuff from the non-core systems.
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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2012, 09:25:50 PM »
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I should soon have completed the full collection of WM magazines- is it a good idea/ legal to scan these and have them posted on this forum, like the Fanatic magazines done by CyberShadow?

Of course it's not legal. Now, nobody can stop you putting them on a dropbox account and grant volunteers an access to download them.

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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2012, 10:31:08 PM »
If you look hard enough the magazines are already out there.
Apparently!

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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2012, 03:34:55 AM »
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Of course it's not legal.
The Fanatic magazines were once put up free on the internet by GW- if the same was ever done for the WM ones then I don't think GW'd have much issue with them being re-hosted.

I'll let people know if I get around to doing that- although Azrael71 is right in that they are probably already out there.

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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2012, 07:38:10 AM »
There's a difference. With the Fanatic Magazines there always was published an electronic version on the net. Warmaster Magazine only was published in paper!
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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2012, 08:33:35 AM »
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Of course it's not legal.
The Fanatic magazines were once put up free on the internet by GW- if the same was ever done for the WM ones then I don't think GW'd have much issue with them being re-hosted.

I'll let people know if I get around to doing that- although Azrael71 is right in that they are probably already out there.

I am right and you just have to search for them.
But they are copyrighted material and therefore I bet GW WOULDN'T be ok about you posting them up on the Internet.
Just be cautious as a Cease & Desist letter/email can really ruin your day :)

I would also refrain from posting links to such material on this forum as it may well be in the terms and conditions of the site that no illegal content be posted (I know it is on other forums I visit and is set out by the site hosting company, not the moderators).
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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2012, 08:48:27 AM »
No worries then- that's why I wanted to check. I would have considered this obvious but the Fanatic magazines are an unusual exception. Too bad GW wasn't/isn't willing to do the same for WM magazine.

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Just saw spiritusXmachina's post- I never knew that about the magazines. Makes the difference much clearer.
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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2012, 11:41:36 AM »
GW can shove it in a pipe and smoke it as far as I'm concerned.   We've spent so many thousands of pounds on its products over so many years - it owes us more than a little leeway on products it no longer stocks or sells.  But that's just my opinion.  Seen as all the armies and rules are on the website for free - I don't see why they'd care about Warmaster Magazine or the old Gothic fan mags etc. being put up online.  They can't profit from them so *shrugs.*
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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2012, 12:17:15 PM »
Can't see that argument standing up in a legal case, to be honest.
But everyone is free to do as they see fit, I am only trying to stop people getting into any potential bother.

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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2012, 03:22:50 PM »
Sorry, that was a bit of a leftover rant energy, bad day. :-X

There was that crazy rash of cease and desists fired out last year - have they not calmed down a bit now?
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Re: Looking for opinions.
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2012, 05:04:57 PM »
GW will protect it's IP very aggressively and to the death - let's face it, it's all they've got really!
I wouldn't risk messing with them.

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