Graph

[marell le fou]

Here is an example of graph for the empire units since end of 2010.
All amounts in USD. Amount presented for each month is the medium of all sells of the month. Only show figs sold individually on ebay. NIB or not not represented here. Nor painted, eventually broken, etc.

Empire army units may not be the best graph to show but it was for an example.

[pw]

How intreguing, I take it you have similar graphs for all of the oop stuff? What's most interesting (and statistically relevant I think) is not the price but the regularity with which these things crop up.

Patience seems to be the key with ebay. I was surprised to get a couple of Forge World cottages for £10.50 each and a Wizard's tower for £23 this week. But some things never seem to be cheap (Teutogen guard have always eluded my miserly bidding tactics, and I'd really like a unit of Knights of the White Wolf but they seem to be particulary sought after despite the fact that they're pretty stupid sculpts with massive oversize heads!)

[marell le fou]

I have register in a big table every item sold individualy on ebay since the end of 2010.

My fields are :
Unit
Army (Empire, ..., Siege, markers, SoC, FW, Bofa)
Ebaynumber
Date
Price
NIB (yes/no)
Painted (yes/no)
Broken parts (yes/no)
BuyItNow (yes/no)

With that, i'm usually able to determine a pricewhen i want to buy or sell. But mainly, really, it's because i'm curious

And i confirm, Patience is the key with ebay. You can have everything with time and a little money.

I was following those FW sells this week. Congratulation, they went for a very correct price.

Here is the graph with your boughts. I did not updates the table since 5 or 6 days, so your boughts are not in yet.

[David Wasilewski]

On e bay sometimes stuff is mislabelled though.
I've picked up a Forgeworld oop castle for £20, more recently I bought a SoC character for about £2 (the mounted vampire)
I've bought and traded oop stuf for much less than these prices - ebay is not the 'only market.'
Interesting though - good work Marell. E bay is still the main market!

Whats the current mean price for Brettonian Knights Errant and Norse Marauders? (these are the only two blisters I'm after now to completely finish my warmaster collection of all oop that I'll ever want)

So do you buy and sell to make money or are you just a fanatical collector?
Just curious as to why you would go to all this effort to track prices for 1 wargame?

Dave

[pw]

Thanks for the FW graph, it looks like the perfect tool to prevent impulse buying! I was happy with the buys partly because of the price and partly because I need the terrain for a meeting we're having at Warhammer World at which I want the tables to look as nice as possible.

I think the Inn/House was £6 when it came out so £10.50 doesn't seem at all bad, they're also painted fairly well which will save me a job in the short term (though I bet I strip the paint and do them again at some point).

[marell le fou]

If i see the mistake, i always register the sell, even being mislabeled. I could create a field "mislabelled" in my table. Will probably do it. At the end, it's always interesting to check every detail, but finally, the main interest is to see what is the current price on market when correctly labelled.

Here is your graph, but there are very few entries for errant knights. Two blisters sold the same day few qeeks ago and the only entry you can see here are those two ones. I began this table after i bought mines two years ago.



Here is a general graph of oop sells with only units from armies. I mean without bofa, fw, siege, casualty markers. Including Albion and SoC.

[marell le fou]

Same Opinion, David. You did well buying them. You will always be able to resell them if needed at the same price, and probably a higher one in the following years, i guess. And FW stuff for wamraster are really nice.

And yes, this tool is a simple way to see if you're buying at a correct price or not. It helps not do bad choices.

Forgot to answer :

So do you buy and sell to make money or are you just a fanatical collector?
Just curious as to why you would go to all this effort to track prices for 1 wargame?

I'm a collector. I only resell to be able to buy some other units i don't have, or to trade. But i like my figs and i like to do things around them. I try to take picture of the whole range for example. Almost done. You can see it here : http://warmaster-fr.niceboard.com/t2154-photos-de-l-ensemble-des-figurines-warmaster

In a matter of boughts, i bought less and less stuff, even if i see the prices are low. First, my funds are (sadly) not so deep
And I like to know some others do have an collection approx as big as mine. It helps trading. I know i can't be everywhere. As said, there are loads of ways to aquire warmaster old stuff, not only ebay. Better to know oop stuff is bought by one of us, here, than someone else.

[marell le fou]

One word about the general graph.

In dec 2010, only norht marauders were sold according to my table. So the graph is very high for this date, and we have to weight well the value of this month.

In May 2011, the same.

In August 2011, 11 sells of OOP stuff, but 3 Dragon Pricnes and one Hammerers, so here too prices are particularily high, but it's a statistic anomaly we have to weight.

In September of this year, as said, i did not entered recent sells, so the graph goes down. But it does not reflect reality.

[David Wasilewski]

Thanks for the info Marell - very interesting and it gives me an idea of what a 'realistic' bid is for Knights Errant or Norse Marauders the next timew they come up!

Cheers

Dave

[marell le fou]

About the Errant knights, i had them mislabelled in my table. One as "errant knights" and the other at "knights errant"... So one of the sells was hidden. It was in 2010 and they sell for a lower price than the 2011 sell.

[marell le fou]

An other global graph of the number of auctions concerning OOP units since 2010. You will see there is hope everybody have what he is looking for with a some patience... And money !

[Stormwind]

Damn, some swordsmasters went for only £15.09

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Warmaster-High-Elf-Swordmasters-rare-/330800785310?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item4d0543679e

Cheapest I've seen a rare unit go for since I started looking in January.

[Toon]

What I am curious about is what you guys think about OOP stuff that is already primed or pointed. I, for example, am willing to pay way less for painted stuff than for bare metal miniatures. What about you?

On another note, I have 3 blisters of OOP goblin archers. I have never seen them on ebay. Are they worth anything?

[Geep]

I far prefer anassembled, unprimed stuff, but will take what I can get usually- especially for really rare stuff (I'd happily buy Lex's painted Ironbreakers or Halflings, but am less keen on fully painted night goblin archers).

The OOP night goblin archers go for varying amounts- from memory I think I've seen them go for anywhere from 15-50 pounds. If they are in blisters it would definitely help their price.

If you have any of the castings which include a fanatic (three visible here: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490080a&prodId=prod1130190) I'd be interested.

[David Wasilewski]

I think it's different for everyone.
Me, I won't touch them if they are already painted. Out of blisters and primed is o.k. but no more than that.

My best guess, value wise, would be £25 per blister for the 'rare' night goblins.


Dave