2000 point Chaos Army - input requested

[berzerkmonkey]

Also you have 9 infantry units. So you have to make 3 brigades which is an extra order and with 3 characters that could be one too many. You might wanna think of cutting one unit, and making 2 brigades of 4 units.

Yeah, I was thinking about that - I'll probably drop one of the Marauder units and either pick up another character or load up on upgrades.

Thanks for the input guys - you've been really helpful! 

[Claus]

Actually the setup is depending on your playstile but normaly a larger number of units is better then a few elite units but as usually the combination of both in conjunction with your playstile, tactical skills and luck to roll the dice will be the "salt in the soup" 

Regards
Claus

[wmchaos2000]

Looks solid. Good luck in your games. Let us know how it turns out. 

[berzerkmonkey]

Will do - I'm not experienced, so I'm sure I'll be destroyed, but hopefully I'll have fun!

[berzerkmonkey]

OK, rehashing this for a bit, I've modified the list a bit and have a question.

The list:

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1 General
1 Hero
1 Sorcerer
2 Chaos Warriors
4 Chaos Marauders
2 Ogres
2 Marauder Horsemen
2 Chaos Knights
4 Chaos Hounds
2 HarpiesThis brings me to a total of 1875 points.

My question revolves around what to do with the remaining 125 points. Do I:
- Take another Sorcerer/Hero then use the remainder for magic
- Take a Spawn and use the remainder on magic items
- Forget about the little dudes - load up on magic items!

Taking the Spawn will bump my break point up to 10, but I don't know if it is worth the points to just have one Spawn.

Any thoughts?

[Jurisch]

Hi,

always good to raise the breakpoint. Would take a Spawn to bring some terror within the enemy.

Cheers,

Jürgen

[jchaos79]

My question revolves around what to do with the remaining 125 points. Do I:
- Take another Sorcerer/Hero then use the remainder for magic
- Take a Spawn and use the remainder on magic items
- Forget about the little dudes - load up on magic items!

Taking the Spawn will bump my break point up to 10, but I don't know if it is worth the points to just have one Spawn.

Any thoughts?

Now you have a solid list and depend on your style of playing, and sometimes depends on the style of playing of your opponent too.

- Take another hero/sorceror --> Are you a gambler? If you are not take the character. That means in your tactic play  all your troops should move and the more character the better.
My opinion 3 characters could move all your troops, I do not take another hero, but I bet I will pass the orders at least 3 orders per turn, if I have bad luck my army could get stuck.

- Take a spawn --> Are you a hard hitting general very offensive? if it so, take the spawn, put it on the infantry brigade which is going to hot spot of the enemy line and use it as a shield for shooting enemies. There are no unbeatable tactic, the spawn could get isolated... If the spawn get the enemy it will cause serious problems.

Are you defensive player and your are fighting against an army with terror troops? take it and allocate it to unable the terror attack.

- Load up with magic --> Is your opponent load up with magic? If it is so, then load up you too. If not don't load your army to not unbalance the game.

As always, that are my ideas, I build them with my experience playing warmaster, and there are not "graved in stone" are only suggestions. My advice, play, play and play then you will discover how is the best way to use your own army. Do not change a lot of parameteres or troops in your list from game to game, just some slight changes and you will learn how to use your troops against different situations and different enemies. Think about your errors and your achivements in the games, taking photos and making battle reports is a good way to analyse what was going wrong in the last game and what you did good.

and always, winning or loosing have fun with your opponent and with the game!

regards

[Guthwine]

Id personally go for the spawn. It can be very annoying for the enemy if your lucky with the 3+ saves. Bretonnian bards sang many a songs about my heroic knights who died because that damned spawn made all its saves.

And you could spend the extra points on a second sorcerer instead of the hero, if youre feeling lucky.

Also a very general Warmaster Rule is Unit > Magic Items, some armies have a specific item (Dark Elves, Orks,..) thats very useful but other than that a unit of any kind will generally help more than magic items.

[Lex]

Also, remember that the Spawn is about as shooty as it gets for Chaos.. and its shot can often make the difference  when aimed at the opponents support..

[berzerkmonkey]

Thanks for the input, guys. The environment is going to be a tournament setting, so I have to create an all comers list.

I'm not sure how they're going to run the event, but it looks like there is a chance for each army to be split into three components (Advance, Main, Rearguard) so I need to ensure all elements of the army have a chance. This is part of the reason I am torn between the Spawn and the Hero...

I guess I'll have to think about it and weigh my options.

[Dave]

I'd go with another Sorcerer. They've got Cmd 8 and nasty spells.

[Lex]

I'd go with another Sorcerer. They've got Cmd 8 and nasty spells.

Besides.... with 3 parts in your army an extra commander could be helpfull....  more if you do not know which part you CAN use.

[berzerkmonkey]

Dave, You just want me to lose that additional break point so you can wipe me out all the easier! 
Hmm, that means I need to get my hands on another Sorcerer model...

Edit: OK, you guys sold me - extra Sorcerer it is. Now for the hard part - painting up the army in the 10 weeks I have available!

[Lex]

Now for the hard part - painting up the army in the 10 weeks I have available!

It is CHAOS.....     no problem.....

Go to the DIY, get spraycans of (mat) black undercoat, gray undercoat, tan undercoat (or ochre, or any bit yellowish)  (trust me, the Car spray Undercoat > commercial games related stuff (and way cheaper!)
Get some of your favourite stain (some people swear by floorpollish.... other buy (expensive) Armypainter..)

get out the heavy metal dudes (CW, HCC, Chariots etc), spray with black, zenit spray with gray
get out the medium and light stuff, spray with grey or tan (mix and match)

grab you stain and dip/shake or brush on per preference

drybrush on your metal color of preference on the heavy guys
mix up some glazes and hit the larger painting surfaces of the medium and light

some contrasting, a bit of highlighting

and you are done.....  ;-)

[berzerkmonkey]

I should have been more clear. I purchased the army from someone and it was half painted to a pretty good level - the first time I've bought something where I actually liked the paint job. Now I have to go about and try to get as close to that job as possible so the army looks unified. That's my main problem!