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Offline Islacrusez

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Advice on Painting
« on: January 06, 2014, 01:36:39 AM »
So I've recently gotten into 40k, the result of mooching around a GW shop so long that I was offered an introductory game to stop me from being booted out of the shop by the manager. I wiped the floor with the guy and decided I could play this game, and there's a tournament type deal coming up, excellent. So I asked my friend if he's got a 1k army I could borrow. Yes, but it's not painted. Awesome, I like painting. It's Imperial Guard.

So my army list includes 50 models of infantry (and 2 missile launchers, a tank, and a flier). I've been painting and painting and painting, and it's getting tedious. There's only about 5 main colours on each dude, but it' been taking forever and it's a grind.

Any advice on how to paint a large-ish amount of (what I believe is 28mm) models without going slightly mad?
Also, since it's not a specialist game, what're the rules on posting painting progress in this section?
Quite crucial to be able to tell minefields and rally points apart...

Offline FistusMaximus

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Re: Advice on Painting
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2014, 01:54:51 AM »
well, 50 is kinda cute, i have more than three times of that amount in space marines...  :D

and you think painting 50 guardsmen is tedious? ask my IG playing buddy who just a few days ago got sentenced to paint his entire infantry by our small player community.
he had about 450 men at the last counting.
 ;D ;D

well, okay, if you want real advide: do it the way i do: start with an extremely crappy 3-color paintjob. looks ugly and only halfway finished, but when seen as an army on the board, it looks better to have the entire army semi-painted instead of five models with a good paintjob and the rest without any color.

then, you can improve the painting step by step, going through the army.


example given with how our IG man does it ith his cadians:

-paint the armor on all models green
-paint the clothes on all models.
enough for the first part, you can play games with that. better than unpainted.

next big spree:
-paint all boots brown
-paint all gun parts that need to silver
enough for good looks from distance.

further improvement:
-all faces in skin color
-some melta or plasmagun colors, and some lamps, lights, flashlights or such thingys

at this point, the army looks good from normal gaming distance on the board. no display minis, but looks good in games.  :D
(if you are motivated enough, you can add steps for further improvement here, like washes or drybrushing, and so on, depends if you want to do that with a mass army  ;D )
« Last Edit: January 06, 2014, 01:56:35 AM by FistusMaximus »
Nova Cannons are for these sissies who as a kid too preferred to throw stones at the others from a safe distance rather than closing in and get into a real fight ;D

my BFG log: http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5390.0

Offline FistusMaximus

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Re: Advice on Painting
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 01:57:43 AM »
as for the non-specialist games WIP log, interesting question, has alway spooked around in my mind...

so, anyone? moderators, admins? whats the rules?  :D
Nova Cannons are for these sissies who as a kid too preferred to throw stones at the others from a safe distance rather than closing in and get into a real fight ;D

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Offline Islacrusez

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Re: Advice on Painting
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 02:01:32 AM »
Hehe, yeah... Not only is it a small army at 1000 points, the heavy mechanised presence means it's a small guard army for those points xD


So far I've painted all my armour white... I really should've gotten over my fear of rattlecans sooner and blasted them with a coat of white primer first, despite their existing black primer coating, because white enamel over black is just a pain. Clothing's all been done with a light grey. Think most of the faces are done now too. Now going through with dark grey for gloves and lasgun stocks, as well as steel for bayonets and gunmetal for lasgun barrels/muzzles.

Still a major pain, having come from a scale model background rather than a wargaming one ;)
On the plus side it means my Valkyrie cockpit is looking mighty fine :P
My only real complaint is that everything was assembled when I got it, so no pre-painting of the hard to reach parts.
Quite crucial to be able to tell minefields and rally points apart...

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Re: Advice on Painting
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2014, 02:12:47 AM »
Still a major pain, having come from a scale model background rather than a wargaming one ;)

yup, me too, but i learned pretty quickly that the old ways won't work...  ;D

and trust me, although one swift crappy paintjob through the entire army and then later improving details in stages through the army might be dissatisfying at first, it does have a lot of benefits  ;)
Nova Cannons are for these sissies who as a kid too preferred to throw stones at the others from a safe distance rather than closing in and get into a real fight ;D

my BFG log: http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5390.0

Offline Jo

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Re: Advice on Painting
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2014, 09:24:47 PM »
Hi,

I would propose one of the following 2 options:

Look at the products from The Army Painter. This company produces stuff specifically for players that want to game with decent miniatures but don't want to spend ages painting them.
http://www.thearmypainter.com/
The time/result ratio using their quick wash is impressive - I have used it myself with very good results for both Warmaster and Mordheim. It doesn't work work very well on large plastic maniatures though.

If you want to get a better effect and you have an airbrush then you can try the speed painting technique from Thomas David. You can buy the tutorial on-line through miniature mentor. http://www.miniaturementor.com/painting_tutorials.html.
The idea here is to create a zenital highlight using your airbrush to give a realistic depth to the miniature. After that you use non-opaque paints (using mix of paints and washes or glazes) to apply the actual color, keeping some of the airbrush shading. Then you add some additional highlights and shaded areas using a slightly modified mix, wet blending it in. I am in the progress of testing this on warmaster trolls - 2 have been done already. The result is a bit brighter than then when using Army Painter quickwash. The shadows are more natural as well, you don't have to hold your mini under a lamp to really see where the darker or brighter areas should be.

Both techniques give you a very good result with limited effort. You won't win painting competitions but you will have time to play ;)

Good luck,

Jo