1500 point Orc v undead 2014-04-04

[Dranask1]

AAR Mark's Orcs against Trev's undead

I set up the terrain and Trev elected to play from the left on the photo as he wished to keep an eye on the TV.

The first photo is after the first turn. No Magic, no missiles.

My left flank has advanced so has my left centre. The right hand centre and wing are happily placed not moving.

Trev's left wing and centre have advanced and his bone throwers are now on the hill, however his carrion and right wing, have declined.



After my second turn the picture show that the right flank of boar boys and chariots have advanced into contact with Trev's left flank, with a successful magic roll for Gotcha! - the red line, yes it shows how good magic can be.



Causing hits on two of his units 'A+B' forcing them back, which destroys unit 'B' unit 'A' moves back but is then destroyed as the Boar Boys and Chariots advance after destroying unit 'C' in the first round of the melee.

My Central Orcs had advanced towards the Units opposite but stayed behind the hill. I advanced my wolf boys around my left flank to threaten Trev's archers, chukker and bone thrower on the hills, whilst the chariots moved into contact with Trev's Giant and the unit just behind the Sphynx in the first picture. They managed to destroy the Giant, and the two units of archers although only one chariot survived of the six the rolled in. I guess I shouldn't complain about that. :icon_rolleyes:



You can see the lone chariot. The boar boys and charoit at the top of the picture were OFC unable to advance a 2nd time so were unable to move into Trev's three units between them and the chariot.

Trev's 2nd turn was for him a disaster, every command roll failed. Only his magic worked his spell meaning my Boar boys and chariots would not charge any unit of undead he has done the same to my chariots on his right flank.

Beginning of my third turn after Trev's 2nd - yup no change.





In my third turn I initiative charged my Black Orcs in to Trev's units that he'd stopped my Boar boys from getting at and two more units of Boar Boys hit the flank, also using initiative. I ordered Orcs to support the Black Orks and my General  command the Goblins and trolls who had't moved in this game to advance.

After melee there was nothing left of Trev's surrounded units and Trev conceded.

[Stuart Bleything]

Green skins go!!!!!.
Excellent report .

Stuart

[Geep]

Thanks for the great report!

One thing which I think may have been done incorrectly- and I'm bringing it up mainly to see if I've got this right- is that drive backs from magic and shooting don't destroy units, they just drive them back and, if that's not possible, cause confusion.
With the 'Gotcha' line, unit B couldn't be pushed back due to unit C being in the way and locked in combat, so it remains where it is and becomes automatically confused. Unit A can't then move due to confused unit B, so it also remains where it is and also becomes automatically confused.
The only problem with undead though is that they can't be confused, so this situation is really not bad for them.

Can anyone more experienced say whether that's right?

[Aldhick]

Excellent report! Thanx for sharing.

Geep: IMO you are rigth.  I personally often use this rule when front unit of my brigade deployed in succecive lines is drawn back by shooting, I simply refuse to make way with the rear ones and that's it. Nothing really happens :-) You cannot drive back Undead this way, unless they want to be driven back.

[Lex]

Correct, and even more so, unit B seems to be in C2C-combat...

[Dranask1]

Thanks for the input people, we did wonder if we were right and took the advice of one who spoke confidently and TBH as it was in my favour I didn't argue too hard.

YOu have made it clear, but to confirm my understanding:

So shooting/magic attacks, only force you back if you wish to go back, if not you can remain where you are but become confused. OFC undead don't suffer from that rule.

So the worse that happens is that they each are confused [not undead] and have the wound(s) against them that they carry into combat that turn.

[Aldhick]

Not exactly. The shooting/magic attack always force you to Drive back move, but once the path is blocked by your own troops, the blocking troops can make way (getting Confused on the roll of 6 themselves) or to stay where they are. In case they won't move (or cannot move because of terrain or being in combat), the driven unit becomes automatically confused. Since Undead never suffer from Confusion, they can be blocked in their drive back move and not become confused.

[Dranask1]

/slaps head, thanks Aldhick, correction noted.

[jchaos79]

Great battle report, and great pictures, they are very explicit and a pleasure to follow the battle.

No rest for the undead, a great aggresive plan for the orcs.

[Luca Bordone]

hi guys
about the object spell/hit/driven back, perhaps I make a mistake, but the unit B is in close combat becouse touches the goblin chariots by corner contact, so , in any case it cannot be driven back, and it must fight against green skin (and probably die )
Luca

[Dranask1]

There were many things done wrong in this game, now most of the time we know the rules, most of the time.

Combat is OFC where most confusion arises, but again I think we have got that now 90% of the time.