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Offline Dave

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Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« on: May 13, 2014, 01:48:42 PM »
Here's a montage of shots for you guys, straight from Bob Naismith:



I've asked for more feathers in the hats, as well as for each of them to be armed with a Katzbalger (their signature short sword).

Also, the standard is WiP I believe. I've asked that the banner be made bigger (inline with WM Halberdiers) and flowing behind him (easier for banner art and fitting him on a base).

A question to you guys, would you prefer:

1) The drummer and standard bearer on a single two man strip?
2) Split them up so each with a standard guy with sword?

Your thoughts?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2014, 02:51:00 PM by Dave »

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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2014, 03:20:44 PM »
those are looking excellent! really impressed with them

on the musician+standard front, I have no strong feelings either way, I think both options have their advantages and shortcomings, as long as they're snippable (?) then I don't think it's an issue either way
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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2014, 03:27:22 PM »
Ya, the plan is to have them close enough to fit on a 6x18mm two-man strip, but still be able to be separated. I'm hoping that'll work when casting.

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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2014, 04:07:06 PM »
I love em, are they "rankable" and can you fit two lines of say 5 models on one 40mm by 20mm base?
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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2014, 04:33:55 PM »
There will be 7, two-man strips (like archers/crossbowmen/skirmishers) that are 6x18mm. You should be able to fit 5 of them, no problem, on a 20x40mm.

Now that I think of it, I'm going to ask him to make sure that they're arranged so them don't get much wider than 22mm. Otherwise, they get difficult to rank up in column.

How much would you guys pay for a unit of 15 (14 rank, 1 command) two-man strips?
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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2014, 05:42:16 PM »
Musician/Standard Bearer? On the same strip, then you can potentially reuse them if you make other infantry types? Hint, hint  ;D.

Cost per unit? Hmmm.

Commercially you can pick up a newly cast infantry unit for £5-£6 or so. Plus P+P. But the big boys have got volume sales, you haven't (yet? ;) ). I tend to make reasonable sized purchases - £20-£40, so the postage becomes insignificant. I do feel a little uncomfortable if I'm only spending a few pounds and getting charged the same amount for postage as I would for a larger purchase though - but maybe that's just me.

You've got to source padded envelopes (50p each?) and the postage is variable. Plus a little for your time and effort actually going to the post office obviously. £2 minimum P+P?

You're making something no one else does, so people should be prepared to pay a slight premium, without feeling ripped off. I'd guess most people would only buy a small number of these units, so postage might be a factor for some people.

Somewhere in the region of £8-£10/unit including postage to the UK? Maybe £12 worldwide? If you could quote the postage for 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. units, people may take the plunge and buy more units up front. If you can do it for less than that, great - I'm a Yorkshireman, what else would you expect?

Could you take, say, up to 4 units to the Post Office and ask them how much it would be to post different numbers to the UK/Europe/Worldwide, then you can give more tailored prices and maybe generate more sales. "I'm being charged £10 for a single unit but 4 units works out at £9 each, ah to heck with it, I'll buy 4", for example. Obviously visit the post office at a quiet time!

Maybe get "a lot" (whatever that means) cast up and sell them on e-bay? A far bigger audience than this website.

If all that waffle makes sense?!

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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2014, 05:54:31 PM »
Oh my goodness the quality is better than I expected!  Really lovely stuff and I love the bearer and the drummer!

I don't know, £10 a unit? Or is that too little considering the outlay? With postage on top of that.
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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2014, 06:18:11 PM »
Thanks for the ideas guys.

I was planning on taking some envelopes to the PO and getting prices for 2/4/8/12/16 units to the US/UK/AUS. That should cover most of my bases.

Listing them on eBay was another thing I was toying with. Although there you run in to the 10% eBay fee on top of anything PayPal hits you with. Still, it be good advertising at least.

My intention with these is to take the proceeds and put it towards sculpting another unit. Not looking to make heaps of money, but breaking even and paying for another unit would be nice. Given that those ranges are doable. Here's another question though. Will you buy more if they're cheaper?

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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2014, 06:38:34 PM »
They look good. Better than good!

The swords are perhaps a touch big, bit it may the angle of the photos.

I could be in for 2 to 4 packs. Can't see that I would want / need more than that.

Price wise you have from about £4.50 to £6 from most of the main commercial producers. For limited editions then you could go a bit higher.

I would list on eBay because it is good marketing, even if you don't want this as your main distribution.

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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2014, 06:40:13 PM »
First of all, congrat that looks pretty awesome

Musician + stand bearer in the same strip (my opinion)

I would like to pay 5-7 pounds per unit.

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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2014, 06:53:00 PM »
Would I buy more if they were cheaper?

They are a specialist kind of unit. I wouldn't expect many armies, fantasy or otherwise, would have lots of units of them. Having seen the sculpts and allowing that my Empire army is just about complete, I'd probably buy 2. Might consider getting a third and using 6 or so to a base to make Empire Skirmishers? The spare Standard Bearer, Drummer and another figure then being used for a character stand.

So, for me, high-ish cost wouldn't be too big a factor as I wouldn't be buying brigades of them.

I assume you won't be supplying bases? I'd be getting mine from Renedra. 3 40x20mm bases would run to about 40p, so call it 45p added to the unit price if you supply them as an optional extra. It might encourage a few more sales?

Edit:

It looks like there are 11 basic troopers, as well as 3 command figures? I wonder if you changed half of the troopers to a different type (crossbowmen, skirmishers, handgunners), you could have two unit types available. Sales increase automatically, even though figure variety drops. Easier to break even. Just a thought.
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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2014, 09:58:30 PM »
Great figures. Interested in them definetively.  :)

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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2014, 02:05:02 AM »
In the U.S., I would pay $8-10 and ask for 4.

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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2014, 03:14:46 AM »
The minis are just sweet!!!

I have no preference as to the layout of the strips but I like the idea that each could be snippable into different 'rank configurations'.

Price - whatever they cost + some extra for your efforts so that you can create new projects.

I, personally, will be buying enough for 4 full warmaster units.  Sell to us first on here, Specialist Games and then go to ebay and make a bigger profit!!
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Re: Landsknecht Zweihänder sculpts (Great Swords)
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2014, 08:22:27 AM »
If I could justify more warmaster armies, I'd probably buy around 4 packs worth, I'd like to pay around £7/8 per pack, but as it's supporting more development, I'd be willing to pay £11/12
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