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Offline wmchaos2000

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Charge & Pursuit
« on: November 10, 2014, 11:35:05 PM »
Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but we had some similar situations in last fridays game.

Charge-question:
In one situation some cav charged an inf unit.
In front of the inf, slightly sideways and 3cm ahead of it , was an impassable rock.
First cav stand goes in. Second goes in on right side of first. When third were to go, we discovered that the gap between first and the rock to its left, was exactly 2cm.
Question, will the gap rule stop the third from going in?
On the far right side of the second, was a wood, so no other place for third to go to.
We figured gap rule had prescidence, so no base to base with third.
Correct?

Pursue-question:
We had a small hill with woods on each side. Inf were crowding most parts of the hill.
After cav charging in, the pursue brought two cav stands directly into contact, but third had to go around due to other units blocking the way. This has no distance limit, but when looking for open ways into the pursued unit (now in the middle of all other inf on the hill) no clear way were found. Except a gap between a wood and an enemy unit (three actually). The gap(-s) was less then 4cm wide.
So does the gap rule stop pursuing stands?
We thought so and only let the two first stands get into base to base.
Correct?

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Re: Charge & Pursuit
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 09:00:52 AM »
Give my opinion but maybe Dave or Lex could give an accurate interpretation of the rule.

Charge-question: I would say yes because is a charge and must pass through a gap made of allies (stand of the same unit) and an inanimate object so the gap is the short edge.

Purse question: I would say No. But I am not sure, because Grimnir question (sliding) is alowed during a pursuit.

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Re: Charge & Pursuit
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2014, 10:30:32 AM »
Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but we had some similar situations in last fridays game.

Gave it its own spot

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Charge-question:
In one situation some cav charged an inf unit.
In front of the inf, slightly sideways and 3cm ahead of it , was an impassable rock.
First cav stand goes in. Second goes in on right side of first. When third were to go, we discovered that the gap between first and the rock to its left, was exactly 2cm.
Question, will the gap rule stop the third from going in?
On the far right side of the second, was a wood, so no other place for third to go to.
We figured gap rule had precedence, so no base to base with third.
Correct?

Would need visuals for proper identification but there is one important consideration.....
COULD that third stand have reached the enemy via a different path then that taken by the first two stands moving !  Remember that movement is done on a PER STAND base!  (I know, out of convenience we oftten move the entire unit.......)

if it legally could find a path to that position then it CAN charge.

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Pursue-question:
We had a small hill with woods on each side. Inf were crowding most parts of the hill.
After cav charging in, the pursue brought two cav stands directly into contact, but third had to go around due to other units blocking the way. This has no distance limit, but when looking for open ways into the pursued unit (now in the middle of all other inf on the hill) no clear way were found. Except a gap between a wood and an enemy unit (three actually). The gap(-s) was less then 4cm wide.
So does the gap rule stop pursuing stands?
We thought so and only let the two first stands get into base to base.
Correct?

By the description I would say yes. Again, the movement is done per stand, with the restrictions of NORMAL MOVEMENT (main rule) and UNIT COHERENCY (main rule), with the specific rules for PURSUIT, UNLIMITED MOVEMENT DISTANCE.