Specialist Games return?

[David Wasilewski]

Well the Horus Heresy stuff is tempting me back into 40K (well 30K actually) and some of the grognards on warseer seem to be suggesting that Epic is indeed coming back. It will be a big box followed by individual releases and its going to be in plastic and set in the 30K universe, like original space marine with updated rules.
Forgeworld will be 'in charge' of the new specialist team.

All good stuff. Of course it'd be even better if they also brought Warmaster back but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Let the wallets, err I mean galaxy burn!

Dave

[empireaddict]

Concur with the above.  They seem to be looking for 40k synergies so while WM players should be happy for the other Specialist Gamers, they should assume that WM is a long way from the front of this new queue.  But, being British, I am conditioned not to complain about long queues ...

[andys]

"Every single hobbyist around the world is jumping up and down with excitement and you should be too!" Really? The days when GW was just about the only game in town (no pun intended) for fantasy/sci-fi wargaming are long gone.

I guess they'll release the first four games mentioned, see how it goes and then either release more or kill it all off. Again.

It will all depend on their pricing. If they chose to be greedy and charge extortionate prices, it won't end well. There are other manufacturers out there, no matter how much GW might want us to believe their hype.

Joyous hysteria and hype will only go so far - cold, hard cash will say how successful this will be.

[calmacil]

Yeah they aren't doing warmaster. It's just the 28mm games, plus battlefleet gothic.

I'm ok with that 

But warmaster would be a huge pain to do again, i was a mould maker in GW the first time they made warmaster ........ not easy

[Dave]

Was it the 40mm long strips? I haven't heard any complaints from my caster with the 2-man strips.

[calmacil]

Was it the 40mm long strips? I haven't heard any complaints from my caster with the 2-man strips.

It's the scale. Ideally the weapons need to be 10mm scale, with thin shields and tiny holes between arms and weapons etc.
When Colin got a job in the studio he said to us "don't worry, i know mouldmaking, you won't get difficult masters from me!!" ....... his first project was warmaster lol

Also with the amount of castings that GW produces it puts a strain on the masters, and they need to be recast, which puts a strain on the master moulds. I know a lot of the master moulds were on their last legs, so it wouldn't be as easy as "let's just keep the range we have, and expand on that with races we haven't done before". You'd have to redo everything.

At the time we were using black rubber, which i personally think is worse then the silicone moulds that most companies use nowadays.

This whole project is run by Tony Cottrell (dunno if he's known?) .... Head of Forge World ... basically he is very much into 40k, not that bothered about fantasy setting (WHFB, WM etc)

[Dave]

Gotcha. You wouldn't happen to have any contact info for WM sculptors that now do freelance work now, would you? I figure that would be a good thing for me to have for future projects.

[calmacil]

Gotcha. You wouldn't happen to have any contact info for WM sculptors that now do freelance work now, would you? I figure that would be a good thing for me to have for future projects.

WM sculptors? no ............. I do know quite a few sculptors, but none of them make WM figures.
I thought there was someone on here that makes the PolarFox range? they look great

[Aquahog]

Was it the 40mm long strips? I haven't heard any complaints from my caster with the 2-man strips.

It's the scale. Ideally the weapons need to be 10mm scale, with thin shields and tiny holes between arms and weapons etc.
When Colin got a job in the studio he said to us "don't worry, i know mouldmaking, you won't get difficult masters from me!!" ....... his first project was warmaster lol

Also with the amount of castings that GW produces it puts a strain on the masters, and they need to be recast, which puts a strain on the master moulds. I know a lot of the master moulds were on their last legs, so it wouldn't be as easy as "let's just keep the range we have, and expand on that with races we haven't done before". You'd have to redo everything.

At the time we were using black rubber, which i personally think is worse then the silicone moulds that most companies use nowadays.

This whole project is run by Tony Cottrell (dunno if he's known?) .... Head of Forge World ... basically he is very much into 40k, not that bothered about fantasy setting (WHFB, WM etc)

Interesting stuff.

[Stormwind]

@Calmacil:

As far as I know the Polar Fox range is made by Bel himself as he has a very good hand for these things.

Thank you very much for the info about Warmaster moulding - I'm amazed the range lasted to 2013, bearing all this in mind.

[Malika]

Psst...

[Stormwind]

That was a test model, but that being said I am seeing it in a new light =D

[Irisado]

Test model or not, it looks rather on the large side.  I hope that they are not going to change the scale of Epic.

[Malika]

Keep in kind that the scale of infantry was different than vehicles. I guess that this time they will try to be more consistent.

[David Wasilewski]

Yeah, the Warmaster moulds were definitely giving up the ghost towards the end. I remember ordering 16 blisters of skaven clanrat as a part of my last big army order just before the end and they were FULL of flash and several strips had the odd 'mutant' in there where the moulds hadn't quite worked. I didn't complain though as around a fortnight after I received these they started pulling Warmaster from sale.

Dave