Specialist Games return?

[Meraklis]

If GW is trying to make a profit with her (GW is a -she right?) old products they will have to compete with the current forerunners .

That means that BFG will have to compete with Star Wars Armada/X-wing (which is really popular) while Mordheim, BloodBowl, Epic and Warmaster have no serious competition that I know of so I guess they will probably make a return with minor changes?

Anyway I am completely in the dark here so I can't really predict what is going to happen.

I just hope they don't simplify everything for the sake of appealing to a younger audiance.

[Aquahog]

No need to worry. In the unlikely case that the old rules won't work for new miniatures there's bound to be a fan made fix. GW should never have pulled out of SG if they didn't want to encourage fan made rule design. Though I suppose it's hard to prevent in a hobby where people need to engage the creative parts of their minds to participate.

[Stormwind]

In store campaign =! Anything to do with the studio rules

Relax, that's just an attempt to whip up some Sigmarine sales, GW knows grognards won't fall for that. They're smarter than you think nowadays.

[cjbennett22]

has anyone seen the BFG armada imperium trailer yet?

looks a lot better than the man o'war "teaser"

[Stormwind]

Yeah the BFG game looks super competent right now.

[Darkson]

That means that BFG will have to compete with Star Wars Armada/X-wing (which is really popular) while Mordheim, BloodBowl, Epic and Warmaster have no serious competition that I know of so I guess they will probably make a return with minor changes?

Blood Bowl = Dreadball & Guild Ball that have all started to gain their own following (some players are ex-BB, some never played BB, some still play it [me!]).
Mordheim = Frostgrave is a new game that has got a small but expanding fan base, again made up of ex-, never- and still- Mordheim players.
Epic = I can see Dropzone Commander being competition, especially if big "robots" are ever added.

BFG might also get competition from Dropfleet Commander which has recently funded (big time!) on Kickstarter.


That said, I don't think those games need major changes - I find games like Dreadball, Guild Ball and Frostgrave (which I all play) have their own feel while still being in the same ballpark

[Stormwind]

The SG were all about scratching an itch that the "main games" couldn't reach.

Growing up I wasn't interested in 28mm at all, when I saw the tiny Epic tanks I knew that was where my heart was set!  Naturally, other companies have been filling those gaps in the meantime!

[cianty]

Regarding Mordheim: I agree with Darkson, Frostgrave is THE current competitor, if that is even the right word. The similarities to Mordheim are striking and at the very least is proves that there is still quite some interest in new fantasy skirmish gaming.

[kyussinchains]

latest rumour from the recent WHW birthday event is that Andy Hoare will be heading up the SG division, they were showing off some of the blood bowl sculpts, pics of which which seem to have been widely disseminated across the web

I'm told epic will not be in the initial wave and will see no development over 2016 as it's a huge project (more likely they're waiting to see if the venture is a failure before committing the large amount of resources required to epic....) apparently they are looking to involve the community in development as they did previously which makes me cautiously optimistic, certainly as the more recent rumours were that the new games would all have an AoS-style 4-page rule pamphlet....

[Irisado]

I'm a bit more cautious about community involvement.  Much depends on how united the community is about the games in question.  There are more disagreements about the rules and army balance for some games than others.  As a result, asking the community for input is not necessary going to be silver bullet.

[mlkr]

I'm guessing we can be pretty sure they wont rewrite the rules for BB? Considering The NAF have done a good job at finetuning the rules and then Cyanide brought it forward to a new generation of gamers...

[kyussinchains]

I'm a bit more cautious about community involvement.  Much depends on how united the community is about the games in question.  There are more disagreements about the rules and army balance for some games than others.  As a result, asking the community for input is not necessary going to be silver bullet.

Perhaps, but one of the issuss we have with NetEA development and all the squabbles therein is in part to the lack of an 'official' figurehead who is viewed as an authority by the developers, Jervis did a good job herding the cats in that respect and dev fell apart after his departure....

[Malika]

Oi!

What's up with the Orc's nose?


Looks like a single piece model to me:

[Darkson]

I'm guessing we can be pretty sure they wont rewrite the rules for BB? Considering The NAF have done a good job at finetuning the rules and then Cyanide brought it forward to a new generation of gamers...

The NAF had nothing to do with the rules, that was the BBRC (though most [or all] of the BBRC were/are NAF members).
I hope they don't use the Cyanide rules.

[mlkr]

Ah my bad. I thought Cyanide used the same ruleset?