Drive backs from cannon

[Dark Omen]

Dear community, another puzzle that came up in a game last night;

Units in defended terrain ignore the first drive back dice when being shot and driven back.

Cannon ignore defended status when rolling to hit.

So do drive backs from cannon also ignore defended status, meaning a targeted unit does not get to ignore the first drive back dice?

Comments and advice welcome

[jchaos79]

I can remeber this puzzle was discussed elsewhere in the forum. I can not have time now to search for the old threat

[honestmistake]

we keep the -1 dice to drive back... just because the cannon blows a hole in your cover doesn't make you any more willing to leave it and be exposed to even more missile fire 

[cjbennett22]

on a side note, if the closest unit is in a defended position you can opt out of firing on them right?  Or was that per stand so if the closest unit was 2/3 in the woods you attack the third stand standing out in the open and roll 4's to hit?

[Dark Omen]

"Posted by: cjbennett22
« on: Today at 04:16:08 PM »
on a side note, if the closest unit is in a defended position you can opt out of firing on them right?  Or was that per stand so if the closest unit was 2/3 in the woods you attack the third stand standing out in the open and roll 4's to hit?"


I don't think this is in the rules. You have to target the closest unit you can see regardless of cover. But cannon ignore cover anyway.

[cjbennett22]

I think it's just per stands.  If you have 2 stands in a forest terrain and the 1 is standing out as they couldn't get there with a failed order, missile troops can target the stand NOT in the forest terrain and hit on 4's.  But as casualties are immediately taken then the stand that is outside of the woods is taken by default first.

I know that rule is true but im not sure about the "closest" unit in that regard.  say 1 unit is at 15 and in woods and another is at 25 cm and not in the woods at all.  I don't think that you could use the same rule to target the unit at 25 cm in that case, maybe my memory is messing with me.  I'm pretty sure it was a dream I am remembering 

I found your rules question exactly though.  Warmaster mag #1 Q&A  the "Defended" position only changes the number needed to roll to hit and not the drive back.  Cannons fire at a unit in a defended position and hit twice on 4's and they get 1 roll for a drive back.

In Warmag #2 Q&A, if you have 1 or more stands in defended or fortified positions then that will effect your drive back distance rolls per the hits taken.