There is always someone that is responsible.

[Duppe]

Wait.. A 4 way game.. As many as 160 models (if the old max amount of models still stand..)! I'd love to be a part of it... It's like putting a goblin army in the setting of mordheim.. Thats actually not half a bad idea.. Play out the infighting part of a orc&goblin army in a mordheim setting.. Hmm... 

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Wagga Wagga and Woy Woy are amusing also.

Sydney is the place to be though. Hope you enjoy the new Snotling Warband, there are only slight updates, some rewordings, a new rule for the Scout et al. It is more inline with Official GW SG Mordheim Warbands and I took all feedback onboard in writing up the last version. Hence the quick FAQ and expanded explanation in the 4th post of the Snotling Final Version thread. I'd love to see a bat rep or several of the warband as I've not had a chance to play with the gits in a long time.

[RationalLemming]

Wait.. A 4 way game.. As many as 160 models (if the old max amount of models still stand..)! I'd love to be a part of it... It's like putting a goblin army in the setting of mordheim.. Thats actually not half a bad idea.. Play out the infighting part of a orc&goblin army in a mordheim setting.. Hmm... 

Yes I have recently been thinking that it would be fun to play a campaign like this with orcs & goblins (EiF), black orcs (NC), forest goblins (NC), night goblins (Pathfinder Dubstyles) and snotlings (Ram Rock Ed First). Anarchy would rule the table.

Have you played with/against the "old" snot warband RationalLemming?

Not yet. I have one guy in my gaming group who loves orcs & goblins though (he's currently playing forest goblins) and I'm sure that he'd be interested in giving this snotling warband a try at some point.

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Wait.. A 4 way game.. As many as 160 models (if the old max amount of models still stand..)! I'd love to be a part of it... It's like putting a goblin army in the setting of mordheim.. Thats actually not half a bad idea.. Play out the infighting part of a orc&goblin army in a mordheim setting.. Hmm... 

Yes I have recently been thinking that it would be fun to play a campaign like this with orcs & goblins (EiF), black orcs (NC), forest goblins (NC), night goblins (Pathfinder Dubstyles) and snotlings (Ram Rock Ed First). Anarchy would rule the table.

Have you played with/against the "old" snot warband RationalLemming?

Not yet. I have one guy in my gaming group who loves orcs & goblins though (he's currently playing forest goblins) and I'm sure that he'd be interested in giving this snotling warband a try at some point.

Missed that response by Eyrenthaal, must have been typing at the time, heh.

160...no, 164, remember Halfling Cookbooks people!!!

Where are the rules for forest goblins, Black Orcs and Night Goblins? I've seen versions a good deal in the past, but none seemed completely up to scratch.

If I managed to get a campaign like that going though I'd be winning it with the snotlings...Oh and the Orcs and Goblins Warband was from the 2002 Annual not EiF. Push in a 6th warband: Black Dwarves from the Border Town Burning Supplement which cianty can link you too so as you have Hobgoblins in there for more flavour and things get amusing. iirc, there was alo a Gnoblar warband put up at some point by someone, I didn't rate it highly as I don't like Gnoblars in general (lol) but that could work for a 7th warband in the mix as well. There were also Savage Orcs floating around a few years back too, via the Strike to Stun website and the setting there...:

http://www.strike-to-stun.com/Mordheim/Karak_Azgal/KARAK_AZGAL_files/Savage_Orcs.htm

Night Goblins are also there, not sure if they are the ones you mean RationalLemming.

Intriguing concept though.

Tell your friend that he can't call himself a true greenskin player until he plays the 1 Bullied Gobbo, 1 Shaman, 2 Tough 'Un's, 2 Scouts and 34 Snotling Runts warband, ignoring any other choice like shoota's or mobs or a wheelo...

[Duppe]

I have to set this in motion. It's way to good to ignore.. Perhaps not as many as seven warbands but still, as many as possible!

But i have to say that I'm fairly confident that the snotlings could take it. Rightly played, hidden in corners, houses, amongst rubble and so forth. 'Ere we go! And with the new "superscout" (my friends will throw a fit when they realise just how annoying they've become..) it's possible to stear the action almost exactly as you want it..

Basic background story; They've just taken a empire city and now it's time to divide the spoils..?

Tell your friend that he can't call himself a true greenskin player until he plays the 1 Bullied Gobbo, 1 Shaman, 2 Tough 'Un's, 2 Scouts and 34 Snotling Runts warband, ignoring any other choice like shoota's or mobs or a wheelo... Cheesy

I'm in complete agreement with Ram, RationalLemming.. You have to tell him to do that.. Only thing is that when he tried once, I don't think he'll want to go back... ;-)

/Rob
 

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Better modify that Rob.

1 Bullied Goblin.

39 Runts.

You don't need anything else. Sure scouts and magic would be useful, but lets face it, 5 Snotling Runt Heroes (just have 39 separate Henchmen Groups to max TLGT advances by the second game, lol!) with that Gobbo and when the gobbo dies 6 Runt heroes would go off. Diminutive Stature, Frustratingly Tiny, Elven Cloaks, Dodgey, and Step Aside, lucky charm, lucky rabbits foot, well then...Though some would definitely need shooting for weapons expert and crossbow pistol lol goodness and the occasional hochland long rifle...Somehow I forsee myself running this as my own starting warband just to prove it can be done...that or take the 5 heroes and dismiss them as I lad up so as I can afford to replace all the fallen runts I will be seeing...

o.O

Luke.

[Duppe]

Haha.. That would do it.. But the two scouts.. Firstly they're just so much fun.. Secondly you couldn't get them just by TLGT advances.. So.. A compromise? 1 Bullie, at least 1 scout and 37-38 runts?

Could it actually work? It would be hard.. Those runts cost a lot of money.. At least when you need to buy 10-20 of them, all the time...

Though some would definitely need shooting for weapons expert and crossbow pistol lol goodness and the occasional hochland long rifle...

Occasional Hochland long rifle?!? That's not something you see every day.. A small runt with a rifle, what, five, ten times his height? But it would make a killer model though...

/Rob

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Yeah shows those shoota teams how to do it!

It's when you go and grab a double barreled hochland long rifle that things start to take off, and if you play armour rules witha  house rule that anyone can wear any amount of armour, gromril armoured snotlings would be amusing. There was a nice Rackham model of a small halfing in entirely enclosed armour that comes to mind here.

Bullied Goblin 35
Scout 20
scout 20
Tough 'Un 20
Tough 'Un 20
Shaman 35
34 Runts 170

Base Cost = 320gc's, leaves 180gc's for hero equipment. Leave say 100 aside for after the first battle for lucky rabbits feet or charms and replacements and you're laughing. Just ditch a hero each time a runt gets TLGT! :p

Heeeeeee!

Luke.

P.S. I think we need some sort of Snotling Challenge, a modelling one. Too much on my plate as is but still. A one for one convert/paint off mayhaps?

[Duppe]

If you're lucky you'll keep that shaman for the entire campaign, mind you, only if you decide never to use him.. He's a little bit unstable and maybe you're better off without one? Though his spells are actually quite good, if he manages to channel the power.. When waiting for the new warband listing i was experimenting with him blowing up completely if dying. Don't have the papers here but I think it was somewhere along the lines of a s3 hit for all in base contact if he died of spellcasting. Anyway, 35 points could be used for something else, as could his slot... A shoota team with a blunderbuss is always nice, borrowing a little from the excess money..

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Actually I'm struggling a little to get hold of the Blood Bowl ones. There's some people really interested in Blood Bowl let me tell you. It sometimes seems that thay wont spare any expense for anything labelled Blood Bowl. Though, the most important Blood Bowl figure (according to me) is the one i have as my presentation picture now. He's peeing down a pair of dwarven boots (Think he's from the Blood Bowl collection anyway.) . Lovely. But I'm getting there, buying what's interesting. I'm leaving out the ones that have blood bowl armour, 40k weapons. It's the ones that can pass for fantasy snotlings that I find interesting.

You mentioned an armoured halfling. There's one that quite often ends up on ebay as a snotling one. Either it's that one or he's a real snotling. Either way he could end up painted as one. He's awesome, metal from neck to toe, a wooden barrel for a helmet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310201276162&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

It would be a lot of fun having a snotling modelling challenge.. What did you have in mind? I'd love to make a new shoota team, though they are mounted on a 20*40mm base instead of the 20*20 from the list.. Couldn't fit them on a a smaller base.. There's so much to do with them... ;-)

/Rob

[RationalLemming]

Where are the rules for forest goblins, Black Orcs and Night Goblins? I've seen versions a good deal in the past, but none seemed completely up to scratch.

If I managed to get a campaign like that going though I'd be winning it with the snotlings...Oh and the Orcs and Goblins Warband was from the 2002 Annual not EiF. Push in a 6th warband: Black Dwarves from the Border Town Burning Supplement which cianty can link you too so as you have Hobgoblins in there for more flavour and things get amusing. iirc, there was alo a Gnoblar warband put up at some point by someone, I didn't rate it highly as I don't like Gnoblars in general (lol) but that could work for a 7th warband in the mix as well. There were also Savage Orcs floating around a few years back too, via the Strike to Stun website and the setting there...:

Savage_Orcs/url]

Night Goblins are also there, not sure if they are the ones you mean RationalLemming.

Intriguing concept though.

Tell your friend that he can't call himself a true greenskin player until he plays the 1 Bullied Gobbo, 1 Shaman, 2 Tough 'Un's, 2 Scouts and 34 Snotling Runts warband, ignoring any other choice like shoota's or mobs or a wheelo...

Yes, 2002 Annual... stupid me! The black orcs and forest goblins are from Nemesis Crown. Black orcs are a little bit boring compared to every other orcy warband but forest goblins are pretty fun to play against.

The night goblins were based on the warband at www.mordheimer.com but have been refined by Pathfinder Dubstyles and can be found here Night Goblins. And Master and Styrofoam King have also been throwing some ideas for savage orcs on this very forum.

I don't know how their rules compare to Strike to Stun though. Styrofoam King also wrote a hob goblin warband for the Border Town Burning competition Hobgoblin horde.

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Rob,

I actually have all those snotlings in the link except that awesome looking armoured Snotling. I also don't have ebay or paypal, lol. :p

I only have the snotlings that were in the more recent WHFB Blister packs, 2 blisters gave alot of variation and some doubles as well.

As to the previous versions miscast, we wanted to play so badly but didn't get a game in with it as you quite literally had a suicide bomber for 35gc's, beats a firebomb that's for sure!

RationalLemming,

Cheers for the references and links. Unfortunately, when GW updated their website I didn't get any of the Fanatic Online articles, including all of Nemesis Crown (we weren't interested at the time, some of the warbands were fairly over the top in power when you looked closely, as if no one had playtested them beyond a few games) hence a large missing chunk of resources on my end. I do have most issues of Town Cryer alongside the rulebook, Annual and now an actual copy of Empire in Flames (gotta love forum trading, can't do it here unfortunately nor encourage buying stuff off ebay - had a mate who lost a job at GW because he did that and mentioned it in front of store kids...) and a load of stuff in my head oh and all 10 issues of the published fanatic magazine of course. So load of stuff missing. Oh, and banned at Tom's Boring Mordheim Forum which is a pain sometimes. I digress, thanks for the links et al on the warbands. It reminds me, Styrofoamking asked me to review Sartossa late last year so as I could break it for him so he could develop it further, boy I wish I had more time.

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SNOTLING CHALLENGE:

Well ideas would be we pick a theme. Then we try to outdo each other by taking it in turns to model and then paint up a snotling to that them. The theme could be anything. Pirates, Ninja's, movie characters, classic 80's video game characters, Worshipper's of the great and mighty Flower Petal Goddess, Masquerade Ball, whatever.

Another idea would be we could in effect do the turn by turn thing and slowly contribute to making a small warband for each other. Start on one person, model/paint toi the theme, one snotling each, ship over to wherever they are and bam, start of the warband, then onto the next persons.

Or we could just try to outdo each other in epicness, trying to be as original as we can on each figure and damn coherency in the warband looks...

Thoughts?

Cheers,

Luke,

Ram/Taak.

[RationalLemming]

RationalLemming,

Cheers for the references and links. Unfortunately, when GW updated their website I didn't get any of the Fanatic Online articles, including all of Nemesis Crown (we weren't interested at the time, some of the warbands were fairly over the top in power when you looked closely, as if no one had playtested them beyond a few games) hence a large missing chunk of resources on my end.

It reminds me, Styrofoamking asked me to review Sartossa late last year so as I could break it for him so he could develop it further, boy I wish I had more time.

Well Nemesis Crown can still be found at the new location for Fanatic Online or at the Nemesis Crown web site which may or may not still be updated by cianty but does at least contain some errata over the Fanatic Online version I believe.

Do you know that Styrofoam King has put Sartosa online now?

(Thanks Lex for fixing the URLs in my previous post!)

[Ram Rock Ed First]

Well Nemesis Crown can still be found at the new location for Fanatic Online or at the Nemesis Crown web site which may or may not still be updated by cianty but does at least contain some errata over the Fanatic Online version I believe.

Ohh cheers mate. Last time I looked on the SG part of the GW website it had the rulebook and like 3 other pdf's and that was it.

Do you know that Styrofoam King has put Sartosa online now?

(Thanks Lex for fixing the URLs in my previous post!)

I do indeed, Dave let me know when he first put them up as at the time I was with my brothe contemplating doing a pirate campaign but then rl got in the way. He asked me late last year to go over everything there to make sure it wasn't breakable in the extreme, but time as ever is ones' enemy. I have th horrid tendency to commit to too many things...

Thanks mate,

Luke.

[Duppe]

SNOTLING CHALLENGE:

Well ideas would be we pick a theme. Then we try to outdo each other by taking it in turns to model and then paint up a snotling to that them. The theme could be anything. Pirates, Ninja's, movie characters, classic 80's video game characters, Worshipper's of the great and mighty Flower Petal Goddess, Masquerade Ball, whatever.

Another idea would be we could in effect do the turn by turn thing and slowly contribute to making a small warband for each other. Start on one person, model/paint toi the theme, one snotling each, ship over to wherever they are and bam, start of the warband, then onto the next persons.

Or we could just try to outdo each other in epicness, trying to be as original as we can on each figure and damn coherency in the warband looks...

Thoughts?

Well, Ram, my first thought was that you seriously overestimated my modeling/painting capabilities... ;-)

Even though coherency could look great, I would argue that it's not very snotlingish... Looking at what my guys are wearing you could argue that they are colour blind, or you could, I guess, argue that I am.. What I really like with them is that they almost have personality.. Don't like to robb them of that by putting a label on the whole band. Sure, individually I'm all for it! A runt pirate captain (or so he believe), a very small ninja and so forth, but all in the same warband!

How, depends a little bit on how many we get to sign up I guess? Or we just do it turn by turn.. Either way, a lot of fun!

[Ram Rock Ed First]

I'm gonna cheat and just use this little fella cause I've had him for a while now as my Bullied Goblin:

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There was a question on linking to external sources......  I adjusted the above post to point DIRECTLY to the picture, and you can see how the link now shows a DEFINITION, rather then an explicit link.

Lex