Warmaster One Dayer. Warhammer World 17 Nov 2012.

[pw]

Two topics here: DATES and GAME TYPE:

DATES
Calmacil has suggested that we look at other dates to avoid tournaments at WHW and I'm seeking feedback on this here. For information, you can see the WHW calendar online here:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=3500001&aId=14300120a

There's nothing in November though December is largely free.

My preference is to just get on with it as people seem to be free on the 17th but it can be changed easy enough if people want to move this to December. If we do change it I'll likely go on the 17th anyway as I've got the pass-out already and see if I can get another for a later date!

GAME TYPE
I don't know much about large games but my imagination tells me that they're likely to be large sprawling affairs that take ages (due to people chatting which is no bad thing). I can only see one of these happening in a day if we decide to do that. I'd estimate that the game would take at least twice as long as a single-player 2000 point game (whenever I've read about big games online they've always taken a day or so and often they've remained unfinished).

My reservation about playing one big game is that it may leave some people with relatively little to do once their armies get smashed. Also, those who are quick to play will have to wait for others to get their bit done.

Table shape seems to be the big issue really (and the deciding factor in my mind): I think Calmacil is right that a very long table wouldn't be conducive to this kind of thing (essentially people would end up playing small games against the person opposite with other people next to them on each side. If we change the date and can get a day with more space for maneouver we could be able to move the table about to avoid this.

I'm likely being over-cautious here but the tried-and-tested tournament style (but friendly) multi-game format seems almost guaranteed to work while the big game could be a big win but might not. I'm no gambler me, as you'll see when I work to manage the odds during my games!

[jchaos79]

First of all, thanks pw for taking the effort of dealing with it.

If I finally manage to go , I will pleased to play whatever you decide, large battle, large battle unfinished, three small battles,  whatever. My point is gather together and have fun.

[pw]

Hi All, here's my latest suggestion which I think responds to the issues of space/time/player numbers/game preferences quite well. It also sounds (to me) like a good laugh:

We could have two medium sized games running at once, each on a 9x4 table (assuming that the tables are connected which I was told they were. This would mean four teams (of 2-3). The winners of each battle play the winners of the other one, losers take each other on in the second game of the day. Effectively it's a very small swiss-style doubles/trebles tournament. Although not everyone would play everyone we'd be close enough to chat and have a good laugh.

This two-game format has the benefit of fitting like this:

10.00-1.30pm GAME 1
1.30-2.30 Lunch
2.30-6.00 GAME 2
6.00 MESSING ABOUT, another game etc. (I'll be there until 7pm as will the other Paul I've already convinced to join us). I think Warhammer World is generally open much later for anyone who wants to keep playing.

At the end of that day, if we get some games in we're going to have fun no matter what format it takes.

[pw]

Good Gracious, I've just noticed that this clashes with the Tri-Wizard advertised by Janners below. The last thing I want to do is to spoil someone else's tournament...  If anyone was planning to head down to Suffolk please don't come to my cake-meet...

[David Wasilewski]

Thanks for letting me know about this PW, I completely missed this thread!

I will be coming down with at least 1 other and possible up to 3 others.
Having read everything, I agree that the 2 games with the option of a 3rd in the evening for those who can stay is the safest  suggestion.

I would suggest booking another couple of tables if you can, it sounds like we're going to need them!
What are we doing for terrain? Is WHW providing it?

I would also suggest sticking with this date (anyways, we might not be able to come if the date is changed now) despite the clash - there's plenty of room for two sets of games on the same day - its not like we're competing with each other to see who can do the bigger event. I doubt many people could afford the time to go to two events close to each other, even if you did change the date?

Dave

[pw]

Hi All,

I've had a very nice email from Janners and now feel much happier about sticking with the 17th so, to avoid any confusion here's where things stand:

DATE: 17th November 2012
PLACE: Warhammer World
TIME: 10am-7pm
PRICE: Free (but bringing treats/cake to share would be nice)
PLAYERS: Maximum of 12 (unless I get more tables but that isn't likely)
FORMAT: Provisionally, we'll be playing in teams of two on 6x4 tables, each player to have an army of 2000 pts (or perhaps 1500)
NUMBER OF GAMES: Minimum of two (before and after lunch), if people play fast there could be time for a third.

So far we have five confirmed players and eight provisionals. Please can you confirm either way as soon as you can by posting here or sending me a PM. Please could you also PM me your email addresses so that I can send out further details once things are finalized.

[azrael71]

My gaming bud maybe convinced to come to a multiplayer game but refuses to play even in friendly one on ones with folks he doesn't know.
That said aim up for anything.

[pw]

Would he be up for doubles games as your partner? (It's how I've convinced my friend to play and seems like a good social way to get new players involved.)

EDIT:

I've had confirmation from WHW that the three tables we've booked are joined in a long line which means that we can easily manage either two doubles games on two 9x4 tables or three doubles games on 6x4, depending on who can make it. It also means it'll be nice and sociable whatever games we're playing. They also said there could be extra tables on the day which we can't book now (my experience of gaming at WHW suggests that this will be the case though they may well be away from our tables, if one of us gets there nice and early we can probably get the extra ones we need).

They also confirmed that they don't have any 10mm scenery so tables will be decorated with normal Warhammer stuff. The trees/hills will all be fine but we'll need some 10mm stuff if it's to look nice. Please can you let me know what you might be able to bring along?

I have:

About six houses, some fences, the river from BOFA. Just enough to make one table look like a Warmaster table. I'll try to get some more stuff over the coming month to add to this (more linear obstacles perhaps).

[azrael71]

There used to be a guy over on the yahoo group who worked there and organised a game every February (winter warmer) he used to provide scenery, wonder if he still works there?
Lex may know.

[David Wasilewski]

I have a small collection of painted resin buildings (6) with associated "built up area" bases that I wouldn't mind bringing, along with some resin fields.

Dave

[Lex]

There used to be a guy over on the yahoo group who worked there and organised a game every February (winter warmer) he used to provide scenery, wonder if he still works there?
Lex may know.

Tom WD

No idea if he is still there....

[Lex]

There used to be a guy over on the yahoo group who worked there and organised a game every February (winter warmer) he used to provide scenery, wonder if he still works there?
Lex may know.

TOMWD / thomas.websterdeakin

not sure if he still works there

[pw]

I have a feeling that TWD isn't with GW but I could be wrong. His twitter summary lists him as a 'man of leisure' or something like that.

If any of you know you're definately coming please can you drop me a PM including:

(a) your email address
(b) the army you'd like to use (if you know it)
(c) details of who you'd like to 'pair' with if you're bringing someone.
(d) your real name (unless you really want to hide your identity!)

Or post it here if you don't mind sharing your email address with the online world...

In a way there's no real rush to get things firmed up (and no-one's going to get turned away) but it'd be nice to know how things are progressing.

Cheers - Paul

[David Wasilewski]

My real name, is ........... David Wasilewski (quelle suprise!)

I intend to bring 2K of Chaos down with me - nothing too fishy, a good, balanced force. ( 8 units of Knights and a general o.k? ) Joke!

I'm bringing an unknown quantity of fellow gamers (between 1 and 3 others) who are useless and can't seem to commit in advance. My 1 definite brother in arms will be Mark Almond who is likely to bring 2K of high elves (tournament army list). I'll ally with him but honestly not that bothered - happy to ally with a fellow chaos player as an alternative? I'll fit in with what the crowd wants - I just want a good game, cake and beer!

Dave

[azrael71]

My name is Mick Marriott
I will be attending, but haven't decided on a force yet (maybe chaos dwarves).
I may be bringing one other who like Dave's companions seems unable to commit, he will be playing Standard High Elves or dwarves.