Warmaster One Dayer. Warhammer World 17 Nov 2012.

[azrael71]

@Forbes, don't suppose you boys are passing by Jct 33 of the M1 on your way there?

[pw]

I've only just realised that it's November all ready and that this is wonderfully soon. (Given that I've just taken my eldest to a firework display my lack of temporal awareness surprises even me and I have very low expectations of myself in such things).

It looks like things are shaping up nicely for a big 3-a-side 6000 point game. I propose that we go for the following teams:

BAD GUYS: Dave, Paul, and Paul (2 Chaos + DE)
GOOD GUYS: Mick, Forbes, Mark (High Elf, Empire, ??)

If this sounds ok, how about we elect a pair of team captains?

My vote goes to Dave for Captain Bad Guy, that way we'll have someone who knows what they're doing at the helm. You up for it Dave?

Who fancies taking the helm for the Good Guys (who might also be the '2 good guys and a bad guy' depending on what army Mick goes for)?

The only real job for team captains might be posting up the army lists on here at some point over the next week or so (if only to give me a chance to read the rules with a little more purpose!).

Looking forward to it...

[forbes]

Azrael - Thats Rotherham/Sheffield way isn't it? I don't think so, I expect we will go down M6 and across A50. But can check with Mark.


Points wise, I wonder if we need to up the size slightly, to better fit the time we have. The other night we played 4k vs 2k + 2k, with just 1 player running the 4k side. We played from 20:30 to 01:00 so 4.5 hrs, with the table and terrain already done.

Even allowing for some more setup time and lunch, this would give a 16:00 finish or so at WHW. Would another 500pts per player extend the game a bit, but still allow the game to come to a conclusion? If we go with 2500pts it would be with 2k min & max.

[pw]

I'm very happy to take advice on the size of the armies. I've never played a game of over 2000 points so I really haven't got a clue! Certainly we won't have time for more than one game so making it last long enough. My train from Notts is at 19:40 so I'll be wanting to pack up at about 19:00 I guess (and the other Paul is working to a similar time).

The good thing about moving up to 2500 is that I don't have to worry about my army list one bit, it's all I've got:

 300 -  2 Chaos Warriors
 240 -  4 Chaos Marauders
 210 -  2 Ogres
 600 -  3 Chaos Knights
 120 -  4 Chaos Hounds
  95 -  1 Chaos Chariots
  65 -  1 Harpies
 250 -  1 Dragon Ogres
 155 -  1 General
     -  1 Orb of Majesty (30)
 260 -  2 Hero
     -  1 Chaos Dragon (100)
180 -  2 Sorcerer


In fact, I don't actually have a third painted unit of Knights but I reckon I could get them done. I'd also like to paint up my Nurgle Daemon Prince (who might replace the second sorcerer)....

[azrael71]

@ forbes, yep that's right.
@PW Really you can't paint a unit of 10mm knights in 2 weeks 

[pw]

Now that sounds like a challenge! I accept  (though I don't have your talent for painting at speed).

[David Wasilewski]

(SLAP) - the sound of a steel studded black leather gauntlet strikes the side of my hero's face and then (splosh) falls into into the mud at his feet. With gritted teeth, Arbaal the Undefeated (Except on Tuesdays) snatched up the glove, spat saliva tinged with blood onto the dark earth and bows to accept the challenge.

Now my dark captains, what forces do you muster to crush the efeete humans ansd their lackeys?

I propose to bring the following 2500 crowns worth of troops:

General (Arbaal the Undefeated) with the Orb of Majesty        150
Hero w' sword of might                                                         90
Hero w' sword of fate                                                            85
Sorceror w' staff of spellbinding                                             120
Sorceror w' ring of magic                                                      120
4 units of Chaos Hounds                                                       120
4 units of marauder infantry                                                  240
1 unit of dragon ogres                                                           250
3 units of chaos knights (one w' the banner of shielding)          650
4 units of chaos warriors on foot (1 with the sword of cleaving) 610
1 unit of harpies                                                                      65

In my head, this adds up to 2500 points exactly and has a break point of 9

Comments and catcalls welcome!


Cake for the Cake God!!!!!

Dave

[forbes]

My current Empire list is looking like this:

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 180 -  4 Halberdiers
  65 -  1 Handgunners
 220 -  4 Crossbowmen
 140 -  2 Flagellants
 880 -  8 Knights
 190 -  2 Pistoliers
  50 -  1 Helblaster
 170 -  2 Cannon
 130 -  1 Steam Tank
 125 -  1 General
 240 -  2 Hero
     -  1 Griffon (80)
 110 -  2 Wizard
     -  1 Scroll of Dispelling (20)
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2500 - 25/13

It might undergo a bit of tinkering yet though...

[markyparky]

Wow am i actually posting on the forum, it's been a long time.... Somebody get a calculator and check dave vos numbers maths is not his strong point and the last time dave was down in Lenton he has to wear a big white beard.

As for the glorious high elf army they will be able to muster the following forces to defeat the evil chaos army

General orb of majesty
Hero on dragon mount sword of might
Hero on chariot mount
Wizard dispel scroll
Wizard
4x spearmen
4x archers
6x silver helms
2x giant eagles
2x bolt throwers
4x reavers

22 units bp 11 2500 points

 I vote for Forbes to command the forces of good.

[forbes]

Mark,

Using the selector at http://wm-selector.appspot.com/ it seems its your maths that is off

Warmaster Army Selector
High Elf Army, 2560 points
Warmaster Armies
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 240 -  4 Spearmen
 300 -  4 Archers
 660 -  6 Silver Helms
 400 -  4 Reavers
 140 -  2 Giant Eagles
 130 -  2 Elven Bolt Thrower
 210 -  1 General
     -  1 Orb of Majesty (30)
 280 -  2 Hero
     -  1 Dragon (100)
     -  1 Chariot (10)
     -  1 Sword of Might (10)
 200 -  2 Wizard
     -  1 Scroll of Dispelling (20)
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2560 - 22/11

Vos is only 5pts over - I think with the General

Warmaster Army Selector
Chaos Army, 2505 points
Warmaster Armies
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 610 -  4 Chaos Warriors
     -  1 Sword of Cleaving (10)
 240 -  4 Chaos Marauders
 650 -  3 Chaos Knights
     -  1 Banner of Shielding (50)
 120 -  4 Chaos Hounds
  65 -  1 Harpies
 250 -  1 Dragon Ogres
 155 -  1 General
     -  1 Orb of Majesty (30)
 175 -  2 Hero
     -  1 Sword of Fate (5)
     -  1 Sword of Might (10)
 240 -  2 Sorcerer
     -  1 Ring of Magic (30)
     -  1 Staff of Spellbinding (30)
----------------------------------------------------------------
2505 - 17/9

Paul looks like he has room for a couple more magic items

Warmaster Army Selector
Chaos Army, 2475 points
Warmaster Armies
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 300 -  2 Chaos Warriors
 240 -  4 Chaos Marauders
 210 -  2 Ogres
 600 -  3 Chaos Knights
 120 -  4 Chaos Hounds
  95 -  1 Chaos Chariots
  65 -  1 Harpies
 250 -  1 Dragon Ogres
 155 -  1 General
     -  1 Orb of Majesty (30)
 260 -  2 Hero
     -  1 Chaos Dragon (100)
 180 -  2 Sorcerer
----------------------------------------------------------------
2475 - 18/9

[forbes]

Mark - my mistake, I used the original HE list, not the tournament one, which comes out at 2500 dead on.

Warmaster Army Selector
High Elf Tournament Army, 2500 points
Warmaster Trial Armies Compendium 2009
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 240 -  4 Spearmen
 300 -  4 Archers
 660 -  6 Silver Helms
 360 -  4 Reavers
 140 -  2 Giant Eagles
 110 -  2 Elven Bolt Thrower
 210 -  1 General
     -  1 Orb of Majesty (30)
 280 -  2 Hero
     -  1 Dragon (100)
     -  1 Chariot (10)
     -  1 Sword of Might (10)
 200 -  2 Wizard
     -  1 Scroll of Dispelling (20)
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2500 - 22/11

[markyparky]

I did the sums late at night but I think you will find the tournament list is correct unlike mr Vos who is 5 points over morale victory to me I think.....

I am taking Vos, Forbes, my son chris and myself down on the day but if you are stuck for a lift, then  azreal I can see if journey planner can get us to notts via M1, need to check journey times as we will need to leave early anyway, I will let you know if it is possible.

[pw]

The Lord of the End times is thinking that with a bit of painting he might just bring along:

Warmaster Army Selector
Chaos Army, 2500 points
Warmaster Armies
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 300 -  2 Chaos Warriors
 240 -  4 Chaos Marauders
 210 -  2 Ogres
 600 -  3 Chaos Knights
 120 -  4 Chaos Hounds
  95 -  1 Chaos Chariots
  65 -  1 Harpies
 250 -  1 Dragon Ogres
 155 -  1 General
     -  1 Orb of Majesty (30)
 265 -  2 Hero
     -  1 Chaos Dragon (100)
     -  1 Sword of Fate (5)
 200 -  2 Sorcerer
     -  1 Wand of Power (10)
     -  1 Rod of Repetition (10)
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2500 - 18/9


Morathi has pledged to send the following to support the Chaos horde:

Warmaster Army Selector
Dark Elf Army, 2380 points
Warmaster Armies
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 300 -  5 Spearmen
 150 -  2 Crossbowmen
 210 -  3 Witch Elves
 285 -  3 Dark Riders
 520 -  4 Cold One Knights
  65 -  1 Harpies
 135 -  1 War Hydra
 110 -  2 Bolt Thrower
 185 -  1 General
     -  1 Orb of Majesty (30)
 240 -  2 Hero
     -  1 Manticore (80)
 180 -  2 Sorceress
     -  1 Scroll of Dispelling (20)
----------------------------------------------------------------
2380 - 21/11

But look, the Hag Queen has come up short and she and Archaon, are wondering if anyone can call in some painted Dark Elf Reinforcements? Ideally, a couple of units of Spearmen (and, even better, two Sorceresses to avoid us using stand in heroes)? If not, expect the real oddity of seeing a couple of units of Halberdiers join the fray.

All of this does depend on approval from General Arbaal...

@Mick, if you end up getting a train let me know. The other Paul and I are training it (from London and Manchester) and could meet to share a taxi if you like.

[David Wasilewski]

My mate Jon has a large, completely painted army of Dark Elves, I'll ask him if we can borrow some units. You're 120 points short - can I suggest another unit of cold one knights!

So exactly what do you need? 2 units of spearmen and 2 sorcerors? (and the unit of cold one knights?)

Dave AKA
Arbaal The Undefeated
(Except on Tuesdays)

[David Wasilewski]

Just noticed that the "other Paul" lives in Manchester.
Paul, I live in Chorley - do you fancy coming down for a game of warmaster one friday night?

PM me if you're interested/available

Dave