Sightings on da Bay

[Getlord]

Hi,
we will try to check this guy, but at first I cannot say anything about him. Never heard about.
I will need some time, but knowing Polish creativity I would suspect even using original moulds :-)
Regards,
Get

[calmacil]

I've just had a good look at them to compare them and I can't see any excess flash, mould lines or markings that would indicate any of them are different from each other? If they are re-moulds, they're very good ones!

It is very easy to avoid the double mould lines. All you have to do is make sure you clean the mould lines off the ones you bought originally. Excess flash or webbing is usually caused by the mould being cast too frequently, you get black burn marks at the edge of the figure on the mould. Again very easily avoided if you simply keep one set as your "masters". Infact knowing how bad those old manky moulds are in GW strongroom, you're more likely to get excess flash from GW   

The main difference you'll find is a slight shrinkage. For rubber moulds there's a slight shrinkage for every generation of figures (you don't get the same with the new plastics/resin they now use) This is increased if they put too much pressure on the mould when it's in the mould box (they'll look flatter than the originals)

If they know what they're doing it's almost impossible to tell if they are original or not. I could easily do it if i bought myself a casting machine and a press, but i never would.

[azrael71]

Why is this guy's activity suspicious?
He sells models on eBay every month WTF!!!
There is a guy lives near me who regularly (every month) puts up 10x units of vampire counts stuff (different variants) plus rare daemon princes, he must have sold over 100 units of zombies and 100 units of ghouls as well as around 20 of each OOP daemon prince, yet no one questions his integrity.

Either the guy from Poland is creating copies of a LONG OOP product that there is an obvious market demand for and GW should re-release to destroy this bubble  or a hoarder (of which we have a few who have already commented on this thread), if people are really stupid/desperate/keen enough to pay over 12 time the current market value of a blister of 10mm models then good luck to the guy.
You never know he may be persuaded to do other OOP stuff.

[jchaos79]

I am with azrael. bravo

[Stormwind]

Man I wonder if GW even have the OOP molds somewhere gathering dust?  I wonder if enough of us signed a petition if they'd be willing to reissue dragon princes or something? 

[calmacil]

Man I wonder if GW even have the OOP molds somewhere gathering dust?

Yes

[azrael71]

I wonder if enough of us signed a petition if they'd be willing to reissue dragon princes or something? 

Ah, I remember thinking (and trying this), don't waste your time, there is no sign of return, but if you watch and wait long enough you will manage to the alt stuff (and at reasonable prices).
Took me about 5 years

[Getlord]

Why is this guy's activity suspicious?
He sells models on eBay every month WTF!!!

I thought the problem was that he was lying in the auction description, wasn't he?

[Bel]

It's just a guess. Also unproven. The main problem - is that if this is a copy, it should be noted that this is a copy.

[Christopher]

I am not overly concerned about getting fakes but if they are re cast I wont cry bloody murder so long as they are on par with what GW was selling. However I will let everyone know if they come to me in rough shape. Obviously we do not know that he is recasting nor do I suspect it to be the case.

~Chris

[Getlord]

It's just a guess. Also unproven. The main problem - is that if this is a copy, it should be noted that this is a copy.

Bel, you are fully right. I noticed nearly immediatelly that I wrote in my post something different than I wanted to, but it was too late to modify .

Let me then be more precise. As far as I understood there is a suspection that recasts are being sold without any notification about their origin or any sign that they are not original figures. Right?

To clarify that I would need more help. Could you provide me the city from where the figures were sent to some of you?

To teel you the truth I strongly support the position that selling home made figures should be marked somehow. On the other hand this auctions would be blocked immediatelly I assume...

[marell le fou]

For my part, i support the idea to produce recast of OOP figs, to give players the ability to use them.

But as we already said, they need a mark and a clarification in the title.

I don't want to ruin the reputation of this seller if there is a doubt. I will simply ask him and give him the adress of this forum and he will be able to explicate if he wants to.

[Rolgan]

Well to weigh in on this, I have been monitoring this situation for a while now and quite frankly it strains credulity to beyond breaking that someone can month after month come up with the same four sets of rare oop miniatures in the exact same condition, if the condition varied such as primed, or painted, or stripped, or occasionally MiB! I might be inclined to give the seller the benefit of the doubt, but it never varies from out of package bare metal mint which is a strong indicator of a recaster.

I suspect this seller is a redux of a previous Polish seller who did very similar things, but that is only a suspicion.  To my mind there is less than a one percent chance this guy is not either a recaster or the sock-puppet account for a recaster. 

Just to be clear, I have absolutely nothing against recasting, but I do have something against selling recasts as the genuine article for exorbitant prices.  I am not saying he should sell them for regular retail or label them as recasts as all that would accomplish is having gouge's legal lackey's involved. These items should be buy it nows at a reasonable profit, however the market is what it is and as a result I tend to only pay top dollar for MiB stuff so I know I got what I bargained for.

Just my opinion, YMMV

[Christopher]

I do not mind if somebody starts reproducing figures as long as it is clearly stated in the listing. Having said that I am looking for the SoC pack and would pay good money for it even if it was a good quality recast.

[Stormwind]

The way the prices are - I think it'd be cheaper for me to buy a bunch of command boxes and use the Swordmasters from them to make a unit. x-D